Ireland vs All Blacks (2018)
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@westcoastie said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@crazy-horse said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@westcoastie his 'traditional' game is not good enough. Watch how flat footed he is and how laboured his passing is. Make it almost impossible for those outside him to get going.
When Mo'unga ran onto the ball and passed crisply the ABs started getting quick ruck ball and there was room in the midfield. Coincidence?
Maybe a bit, but we had started to get a roll on before Mounga came on, and also, we lost momentum when Mounga came on (last 10min were much more even)
I've posted this already, but BB needs someone in the midfield to take a crash ball up, but there were no forwards getting that done, and hes not just going to dump Crotty into contact.
Coaches need to put their goddam hats on and sort out breaking down Rush D.We don't have the midfield destroyer at the moment. SBW was meant to be that guy
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@donsteppa hopefully only twice....
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@nevorian said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@kiwiinmelb yes please lets not box kick so much, hold the ball more and see what our backs can actually do would be nice
In the end I think that is what did us.
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@victor-meldrew said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
They looked good to storm home in the last 20 but seemed to panic.
The ability to think under pressure and NOT panic seems to be quite fragile at the moment. It may or may not be a one-off but it's a bit worrying
That's the most disappointing, because the game could have been won. The holes were appearing and Ireland were absolutely buggered. But too much pushing the pass and tricky shit.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@victor-meldrew said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
They looked good to storm home in the last 20 but seemed to panic.
The ability to think under pressure and NOT panic seems to be quite fragile at the moment. It may or may not be a one-off but it's a bit worrying
That's the most disappointing, because the game could have been won. The holes were appearing and Ireland were absolutely buggered. But too much pushing the pass and tricky shit.
Thinking clearly under pressure, or keeping a blue head, was McCaw's puppy.
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@rancid-schnitzel yep, game was there for the taking alright, but our poor tactics (kicking) panic mode and execution cost us dearly.
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@canefan said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@westcoastie said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@crazy-horse said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@westcoastie his 'traditional' game is not good enough. Watch how flat footed he is and how laboured his passing is. Make it almost impossible for those outside him to get going.
When Mo'unga ran onto the ball and passed crisply the ABs started getting quick ruck ball and there was room in the midfield. Coincidence?
Maybe a bit, but we had started to get a roll on before Mounga came on, and also, we lost momentum when Mounga came on (last 10min were much more even)
I've posted this already, but BB needs someone in the midfield to take a crash ball up, but there were no forwards getting that done, and hes not just going to dump Crotty into contact.
Coaches need to put their goddam hats on and sort out breaking down Rush D.We don't have the midfield destroyer at the moment. SBW was meant to be that guy
Laumape. Maybe Nonu but Crotty was good.
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@crazy-horse said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@westcoastie his 'traditional' game is not good enough. Watch how flat footed he is and how laboured his passing is. Make it almost impossible for those outside him to get going.
When Mo'unga ran onto the ball and passed crisply the ABs started getting quick ruck ball and there was room in the midfield. Coincidence?
Nonsence. There was no difference. The only difference was the game inevitably opening up and the ABs having more ball. There wasn't suddenly room in the midfield.
I also lost count of the number of times BB was the one who scrambled at the back to save our arses.
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@snowy said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@canefan said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@westcoastie said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@crazy-horse said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@westcoastie his 'traditional' game is not good enough. Watch how flat footed he is and how laboured his passing is. Make it almost impossible for those outside him to get going.
When Mo'unga ran onto the ball and passed crisply the ABs started getting quick ruck ball and there was room in the midfield. Coincidence?
Maybe a bit, but we had started to get a roll on before Mounga came on, and also, we lost momentum when Mounga came on (last 10min were much more even)
I've posted this already, but BB needs someone in the midfield to take a crash ball up, but there were no forwards getting that done, and hes not just going to dump Crotty into contact.
Coaches need to put their goddam hats on and sort out breaking down Rush D.We don't have the midfield destroyer at the moment. SBW was meant to be that guy
Laumape. Maybe Nonu but Crotty was good.
He was good. But for balance we can't have too Conrad Smith types. Nonu was brilliant, incisive and brought the necessary scare factor
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@kidcalder said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@canefan Laumape?
otherwise Nonu return will be very interestingNot sure he's ready. Will he be like Nonu or Slamming Sam Tuitupou?
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@kidcalder said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@canefan Laumape?
otherwise Nonu return will be very interestingYou think that he isn't a midfield destroyer? That is what I was replying to.
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@taniwharugby said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@donsteppa hopefully only twice....
Yep. Once is careless. Twice is soft. A third time would be time to polish the CV’s and begone...
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@canefan said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
We will gain no satisfaction next week. It will be a Summer of soul searching, which may not be a bad thing if we can come back with a renewed clarity about how we need to play
A lot of this team probably won't be playing next week. But maybe this loss, and more importantly performance, will cause the coaches to reassess the team that plays Italy.
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@bovidae said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@canefan said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
We will gain no satisfaction next week. It will be a Summer of soul searching, which may not be a bad thing if we can come back with a renewed clarity about how we need to play
A lot of this team probably won't be playing next week. But maybe this loss, and more importantly performance, will cause the coaches to reassess the team that plays Italy.
I'd make the useless fluffybunnies do it again and redeem themselves. Fuck I hate losing.
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@snowy said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@kidcalder said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@canefan Laumape?
otherwise Nonu return will be very interestingYou think that he isn't a midfield destroyer? That is what I was replying to.
I do think Laumape is would love to see him given big tests ..prob should have played this 1
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@rancid-schnitzel that's why I pondered whether it was a conincidence. None of us will really know. We only saw Goodhue taking the ball on the run once and having enough time to pass to Ioane, and that was from a decent Mo'unga pass.
I am not a Barrett hater before anyone accuses me of being one. I am not convinced he is a world cup winning 10.
