England vs All Blacks
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@bovidae said in England vs All Blacks:
Out of curiosity I was interested to know when England last out-scored NZ in tries in a test at Twickenham. You might have thought it was in the 38-21 loss in 2012 but it wasn't (3 tries each). You have to go back to the 26-26 draw in 1997 (3 vs 2).
When was the last time NZ outscored England in drop goals?
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@majorrage said in England vs All Blacks:
England robbed.
Shit decison. Reverse it and This forum tops porn hub for bandwidth.
Hollow victory for me, Twickenham felt confused
What a load of bullshit. I think you've out marshalled Justin Marshall there. Pretty sad for you.
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Have only just watched the game, a few thoughts.
England were clinical as hell for 25 minutes but were never really overly threatening, which sounds weird considering they were deservedly up by 15 points.
Our tactics of nudging into the corners were spot on for the conditions, though the execution most of the first half was bloody poor.
BBBR was outstanding, what a beast.
Ardie good yet again.
A Smith better than he has been recently.
It’s time to invest in youth at 12, we really need someone there who isn’t going to break every 5 minutes. We’ve got 2 blokes job sharing doing a combined 75% of what ALB or Laumape could do on their own.
DMac possibly his best game in black, did a great job tidying up at the back.The offside/no try call was 100% correct, it was clear as day that he was a body width offside.
Great test match.
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@bones said in England vs All Blacks:
@majorrage said in England vs All Blacks:
England robbed.
Shit decison. Reverse it and This forum tops porn hub for bandwidth.
Hollow victory for me, Twickenham felt confused
What a load of bullshit. I think you've out marshalled Justin Marshall there. Pretty sad for you.
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@mariner4life said in England vs All Blacks:
Lawes started iffside let alone moved early. Correct decision.
England will be devo, they threw everything at that
England most likely will be disappointed that in the second half they played very little rugby with the ball. The ABs had more patches of go forward in the second half thanks to both our backs and forwards.
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@rapido said in England vs All Blacks:
I was very disappointed with nz scrum. To only get parity with the worst scrum in tier 1 rugby is a national disgrace. A stain on all our manhoods.
I did expect that we would have more dominance in that area although as pointed out pre match, the way scrums are adjudicated at the moment causing the opposition to buckle down or stand up is only called if the ball isn't available at the back. I think we had a few of those.
Also looked to me like the one where Of a didn't bind was a dominant scrum at a good position and time. The lack of bind got the blame as it was the easiest call. Of a put his hand down to stabilise but couldn't get it back up. -
I don't think Shag will be too happy with Ofa for just lying on their side of the ruck towards the end of the match just outside their 22. He made no attempt to roll away. Another ref could have easily penalised him for that and it would have been 3 points to them and game over. Terrible discipline on his part.
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@akan004 said in England vs All Blacks:
I don't think Shag will be too happy with Ofa for just lying on their side of the ruck towards the end of the match just outside their 22. He made no attempt to roll away. Another ref could have easily penalised him for that and it would have been 3 points to them and game over. Terrible discipline on his part.
It took me 79 minutes to get worked up enough to tell at the TV, that was the moment. Ofa lieing there like a stiff corpse.
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What a tough tense match. Shocking conditions, the Poms were committed and played right on the line (and a fair amount over it), they played their game about as well as they could in the first 40. They negated our game for the most part of the first half. We were far from perfect, the last pass option let us down a couple of time, but we deserved the win. After all that time offside it was fitting that we finally got a decision to go our way with the disallowed try. Plenty to work on as they say, but a good hard game that we did well to win
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@victor-meldrew said in England vs All Blacks:
The first Test match I went to was a "must win" 3rd Test against the Lions in '71 (I was young...). I was also at Cardiff in '07 for the "must win" Quarter Final against France...
I'm at Twickenham next week for the AB's v England.
The Curse of the Meldrews. Be afraid, be very afraid.
Curse of the Meldrews trumped by Aura.
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@snowy said in England vs All Blacks:
I thought that the whole offside thing was justice for them being offside many other times during the match. They only got called on it because it led to a try. It should have happened several times earlier.
What Snowy said.
I counted 6 very clear offsides not called against England during the game.
Plus, not so much justice with the offsides call wrt the try, just finally the right call made.
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@snowy said in England vs All Blacks:
I thought that the whole offside thing was justice for them being offside many other times during the match. They only got called on it because it led to a try. It should have happened several times earlier.
Their 11 spent so much time in our line he should have been wearing a black jersey. He wasn't alone. I don't blame Garces but the touchies are right in line and don't call the offside.
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For a neutral, a very absorbing game to watch.
I thought England looked a significantly better team than the one that played the Boks. Conditions were horrible but they played smart, aggressive and effective rugby. Thoroughly deserved their lead early on.
But credit to the ABs who adjusted their game superbly. BBR was immense at the lineout and while I teased about him, thought Barrett was an effective sub later in the game. Beauden Barrett getting a droppie is a bit of learning the ABs may appreciate come RWC.Thought the officiating was average to ok. England got away (again) with a fair number of offside defence. But good to see that this time home crowd pressure didn’t negatively affect the TMO call.
England will feel this is one that got away. If they had taken the 3 points on offer towards the back end of the game... They too will have learned something to take to Japan.
