England vs All Blacks

[booboo]

@stargazer said in England vs All Blacks:

@booboo Nope.

Thanks Gazer. Think we were making the same point.

[taniwharugby]

so have to assume Ngani returned to NZ some time this week, be a big ask for him to turn around and get on another plane today/tomorrow?

[Stargazer]

@taniwharugby It would normally only be as injury cover, and maybe playing against Italy.

[Machpants]

A more perpendicular line, but the hind most foot is a few cm left, you can see it blurry between lawes legs and 17's arm

[Kirwan]

@taniwharugby said in England vs All Blacks:

so have to assume Ngani returned to NZ some time this week, be a big ask for him to turn around and get on another plane today/tomorrow?

He’ll have a week to recover. Maybe they could have Reiko cover next week if one of the three remaining midfielders go down. Ben Smith covers there too.

Then have Ngani cover for Italy?

[Kirwan]

@machpants said in England vs All Blacks:

A more perpendicular line, but the hind most foot is a few cm left, you can see it blurry between lawes legs and 17's arm

Yeah that line is too far forward, and he’s still in front of. The UK media is being dishonest if they think this is a controversial decision.

[taniwharugby]

@machpants you mean a few CM in the image, not on the field, which again puts 2nd in from the top offside as well...no way is the entire English defensive line half a metre behind the offside line and only Lawes on the line....the line should be well behind Lawes rear foot.

[Crucial]

BTW the shot was just the only one I could find quickly. It was someone else’s graphics on Twitter.

My point wasn’t so much the actual offside line but how out of line Lawes was with the rest of his team. Either he got it wrong or they all did.

[Margin_Walker]

Playing devil's advocate (naturally) was it even a ruck? No England players competed at any point.

Either way it was a great test and was worth the wait. Can't win a game if you can't win your own lineout ball.

[taniwharugby]

@margin_walker there is an English guy on the ground, see his head under refs hand and feet to the left of Lawes leg...he looks part of it?

[Margin_Walker]

@taniwharugby

Yeah, he was the tackler. No one else went in that I could see

[taniwharugby]

@margin_walker but when he tackles the player you now have a ruck with 1 each there.

[Stargazer]

[Margin_Walker]

@taniwharugby

Too late in the day to get my law book out, but I'm pretty sure that's just a tackle situation. Not a ruck. Need a defending player to actually compete for the ball in some way.

[taniwharugby]

@margin_walker well the next AB player in moments later causes it to be a ruck or if the English guy gains his feet to atack the ball, only need 2 for a ruck

[booboo]

@stargazer said in England vs All Blacks:

Great find Gazer.

Puts all into perspective. Offside. Not even debatable.

[Margin_Walker]

@taniwharugby

Needs at least one player from each team over the ball competing at some point iirc.

[booboo]

@margin_walker said in England vs All Blacks:

@taniwharugby

Needs at least one player from each team over the ball competing at some point iirc.

For a ruck yes.

See tweets posted above by @Stargazer re offside at tackle.

Law of unintended consequence / karma.

[Margin_Walker]

Good job someone's read the law book

[booboo]

@margin_walker said in England vs All Blacks:

Good job someone's read the law book

Including Marius Jonkers