All Blacks v Springboks
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@steven-harris said in All Blacks v Springboks:
My impression of last light nights test.
Was that the Hurricanes that played the springboks last night...?gfys
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Seems to be the usual doom and gloom (mostly from the media).
Pretty sure we went through this after a loss in Hong Kong back in 2010..everything seemed to work out fine the following year.. -
http://rugby.statbunker.com/competitions/KickingStrikeRateHome?comp_id=573
According to these guys, Beauden was our most successful AB kicker in Super rugby this year.
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To be fair most of the social network in NZ has been quite complimentary to the Springboks..
Just the odd few blaming B.B and super rugby time nature of the way we were trying to play the game..
Personally I thought we were very loose and too keen use ball off the top of the lineout which suited the rush defence the Boks were using.
Would like to have seen us drive a lot more from lineouts which we used to good effect close to the line.
Finally on Beauden Barrett,he’s quite the talent,but needs to take responsibility of drop kick situations and needs to work bloody harder on his goalkicking moving forward.Watched the last 10 minutes of the Dragons v Souths NRL elimination game last night,Adam Reynolds took responsibility drop kicking 3 goals in the last 7 minutes..took control of the situation and that’s all I ask from BB
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@chris-b said in All Blacks v Springboks:
http://rugby.statbunker.com/competitions/KickingStrikeRateHome?comp_id=573
According to these guys, Beauden was our most successful AB kicker in Super rugby this year.
Look, people are emotional after a loss. We need a scapegoat. We need to have a go at someone. Can you please stop bringing facts and logic to this thread.
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Good game. Enjoyed it. Pity about the loss, but can't win them all aye?
Our game got beaten by a team that kept making their tackles, and took their opportunities. Well done to SA, a deserved and great win.
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A few things learnt
1 BBBR is definetly missed
2 some of the younger players still have a bit of learning to do in high pressure games (Goodhue the exception)
3 high risk fast paced rugby is great but it is exactly that and some times the ball just wont bounce your way (literally) and sometimes the game may need to be slowed down
4 Beaden Barrett will miss a few kicks but we don't lose too many tests when he is on the park
5 Ben Smith is playing his best rugby, shame he seemed to be under utilised in the second half -
@chris-b said in All Blacks v Springboks:
http://rugby.statbunker.com/competitions/KickingStrikeRateHome?comp_id=573
According to these guys, Beauden was our most successful AB kicker in Super rugby this year.
Those stats don't take into account the difficulty of the kicks. What they could suggest though is that Jordie was taking the harder kicks given BB's total attempted was around 2/3rds that of Dmac or Mounga with Jordie making up the difference. From memory they shared the kicking a fair bit with JB doing exactly that.
What the stats clearly show is that Lima had a bad year kicking.
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@pukunui Yeah - but, the conversion stats especially aren't a bad guide.
What they do indicate is that usually Beauden would sink those easy ones he missed last night.
Apropos to very little - I can remember years ago seeing a snooker documentary where they got some of the top players to take something like a thousand identical and pretty easy shots. Steve Davis - who was the best player in the world at the time did significantly better than the next best guys. Would be interesting to see the same thing in a goal kicking contest.
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No one has mentioned how well ABs monstored Boks in maul on second half. Ardie's try came from more than twenty metres out.
Can't help feeling the BB thing is mental. Can remember thinking when we really needed conversion from sideline that he would slot it, and sure enough he did, bisecting the posts. That level of focus and I can't see how he'd have missed both the posters.
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@pakman said in All Blacks v Springboks:
No one has mentioned how well ABs monstored Boks in maul on second half. Ardie's try came from more than twenty metres out.
Can't help feeling the BB thing is mental. Can remember thinking when we really needed conversion from sideline that he would slot it, and sure enough he did, bisecting the posts. That level of focus and I can't see how he'd have missed both the posters.
He's had a weird thing of kicking sideline conversions, but duffing easy ones in front of the posts. Maybe too relaxed?
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Sydney Morning Herald's Team of the Week
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Steven Kitshoff (South Africa)
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Malcolm Marx (South Africa)
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Frans Malherbe (South Africa)
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Franco Mostert (South Africa)
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Tomas Lavanini (Argentina)
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Pablo Matera (Argentina)
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Siya Kolisi (South Africa)
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Warren Whiteley (South Africa)
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Faf de Klerk (South Africa)
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Nicholas Sanchez (Argentina)
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Aphiwe Dyanti (South Africa)
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Handre Pollard (South Africa)
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Jesse Kriel (South Africa)
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Ben Smith (New Zealand)
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Willie le Roux (South Africa)
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Judging by that team you'd think the Boks beat us by 50 points.
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@no-quarter said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Judging by that team you'd think the Boks beat us by 50 points.
Codie Taylor was the best forward on the park in both tests.
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@rapido I guess he at least slotted in there when replacements were made...however that probably coincided with Goodhue tearing shit up.
Although, I am mildly impressed they managed to figure that Kolisi is an openside despite playing in 6. Seems many posters here can't even figure that one.
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@akan004 said in All Blacks v Springboks:
Squire will miss the rest of the RC. Hope they bring in Akira.
What for? Don’t you know they picked 8 blindside flankers in the squad.
In all seriousness, Frizzell will be given further opportunity.
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I have a half arsed theory that Beaudy's kicking tee is way too high.
Looks like he's using the tee you would use with your driver, except he's playing a par three.
It just looks like the margin of error is way too high off such a high tee.
I haven't really spent much time checking to see what type of tee other kickers are using.
Regardless of that, his kick trajectory is wildly inconsistent, he doesn't seem to be sure if he's trying a draw or a fade or a straight kick trajectory.
One of the latter misses looked to me like his foot was way off where it should have been contacting the ball.
The drop kick palaver, short memory guys, short memory.