AB "What could have been" XV
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@jegga That was a weird time. I remember Philemon Toleafoa was signed by the NZRU because of Sean Fitzpatrick going on about how good he was and how he was a must for the NZRU to sign. He ended up at Waikato, was useless, couldn't get a contract for the Chiefs and was never seen again.
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@african-monkey said in AB "What could have been" XV:
@jegga That was a weird time. I remember Philemon Toleafoa was signed by the NZRU because of Sean Fitzpatrick going on about how good he was and how he was a must for the NZRU to sign. He ended up at Waikato, was useless, couldn't get a contract for the Chiefs and was never seen again.
I was trying to find that guys name, his agent certainly worked overtime getting his name out there and then when he turned up like you said he was very very average.
There was a kiwi called Van Gisbergan the poms hyped around the same time , from memory he simply continued the historical abberation of England never producing a world class fullback.*Apart from Gsllagher who played for New Zealand and Ireland instead of England.
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@cgrant said in AB "What could have been" XV:
Nick Allen. He was an outstanding 1st Five.
Dominic Bird. A towering potential. Could have won a place for the next WC if he had stayed in NZ.Bird. One of the must overrated players ever.
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@billy-tell said in AB "What could have been" XV:
@cgrant said in AB "What could have been" XV:
Nick Allen. He was an outstanding 1st Five.
Dominic Bird. A towering potential. Could have won a place for the next WC if he had stayed in NZ.Bird. One of the must overrated players ever.
He got pretty far up the pecking order to be fair
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My effort at a 23, all playing during the full pro era (so no Monkley etc). I personally think Leonard went as far as would have, so I'm struggling to think of a better HB for the bench than Duggan? I'm tempted to switch Kahui and Fruean, but Kahui did a fantastic job at 14 during a WC, and he should really have been an AB who appeared more than 17 times. AT least he got those though...
1 Goodes
2 Elliot
3 Afoa
4 Boric
5 Broadhurst
6 Paterson
7 Holah
8 Luatua
9 Fotuali'i
10 Evans
11 Rupeni
12 Ngatai
13 Fruean
14 Kahui
15 Piutau16 Willis
17 Mackintosh
18 Afeaki
19 Ryan
20 Blackie
21 Duggan
22 Nacewa
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@mn5 said in AB "What could have been" XV:
@billy-tell said in AB "What could have been" XV:
@cgrant said in AB "What could have been" XV:
Nick Allen. He was an outstanding 1st Five.
Dominic Bird. A towering potential. Could have won a place for the next WC if he had stayed in NZ.Bird. One of the must overrated players ever.
He got pretty far up the pecking order to be fair
He got selected based on his physical stats but even the AB coaches couldn’t turn that into a top lock. Basically a modern Mark Cooksley.
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@billy-tell said in AB "What could have been" XV:
@mn5 said in AB "What could have been" XV:
@billy-tell said in AB "What could have been" XV:
@cgrant said in AB "What could have been" XV:
Nick Allen. He was an outstanding 1st Five.
Dominic Bird. A towering potential. Could have won a place for the next WC if he had stayed in NZ.Bird. One of the must overrated players ever.
He got pretty far up the pecking order to be fair
He got selected based on his physical stats but even the AB coaches couldn’t turn that into a top lock. Basically a modern Mark Cooksley.
That one might have flown over your head.
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@bones said in AB "What could have been" XV:
@billy-tell said in AB "What could have been" XV:
@mn5 said in AB "What could have been" XV:
@billy-tell said in AB "What could have been" XV:
@cgrant said in AB "What could have been" XV:
Nick Allen. He was an outstanding 1st Five.
Dominic Bird. A towering potential. Could have won a place for the next WC if he had stayed in NZ.Bird. One of the must overrated players ever.
He got pretty far up the pecking order to be fair
He got selected based on his physical stats but even the AB coaches couldn’t turn that into a top lock. Basically a modern Mark Cooksley.
That one might have flown over your head.
Ah, the highly original thing where you make all sort of avian-related jokes because his name is Bird. Too complicated for mere mortals.
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@billy-tell said in AB "What could have been" XV:
@bones said in AB "What could have been" XV:
@billy-tell said in AB "What could have been" XV:
@mn5 said in AB "What could have been" XV:
@billy-tell said in AB "What could have been" XV:
@cgrant said in AB "What could have been" XV:
Nick Allen. He was an outstanding 1st Five.
Dominic Bird. A towering potential. Could have won a place for the next WC if he had stayed in NZ.Bird. One of the must overrated players ever.
He got pretty far up the pecking order to be fair
He got selected based on his physical stats but even the AB coaches couldn’t turn that into a top lock. Basically a modern Mark Cooksley.
That one might have flown over your head.
Ah, the highly original thing where you make all sort of avian-related jokes because his name is Bird. Too complicated for mere mortals.
I cringe when I recall the awful, awful dad jokes Jeremy Thrush was in the mix at the same time .
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@jegga said in AB "What could have been" XV:
@billy-tell said in AB "What could have been" XV:
@bones said in AB "What could have been" XV:
@billy-tell said in AB "What could have been" XV:
@mn5 said in AB "What could have been" XV:
@billy-tell said in AB "What could have been" XV:
@cgrant said in AB "What could have been" XV:
Nick Allen. He was an outstanding 1st Five.
Dominic Bird. A towering potential. Could have won a place for the next WC if he had stayed in NZ.Bird. One of the must overrated players ever.
He got pretty far up the pecking order to be fair
He got selected based on his physical stats but even the AB coaches couldn’t turn that into a top lock. Basically a modern Mark Cooksley.
That one might have flown over your head.
Ah, the highly original thing where you make all sort of avian-related jokes because his name is Bird. Too complicated for mere mortals.
I cringe when I recall the awful, awful dad jokes Jeremy Thrush was in the mix at the same time .
Throw in a Shag, Fox, Bear and a Tui. All sorts of fun to be had.
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