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@stargazer ah ok, so you are cool with NZR basically saying none of you other 10s out there are upto super rugby next year, so hard luck?
If he does sign in M10, then great, all a moot point, but if not, it is shit, he is not someone who has earnt the right to play off-shore and in Super rugby.
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@taniwharugby said in Super Rugby News:
@stargazer ah ok, so you are cool with NZR basically saying none of you other 10s out there are upto super rugby next year, so hard luck?
If he does sign in M10, then great, all a moot point, but if not, it is shit, he is not someone who has earnt the right to play off-shore and in Super rugby.
Are there any 10s in Mitre 10 Cup who are available, upto SR level and adequate as a back-up for BB? I reckon they are very hard to find.
Considering they have already signed a shit 10 from Mitre 10 Cup (JGB), who doesn't seem up to SR level as well as a young inexperienced one (TJ Va'a), who has been more injured than not, I can fully understand this signing, if only for one season, so they have more time to prepare a young one (Va'a or someone else) for the following season(s).
They failed to sign Falcon last year. Otere Black left and has signed with the Blues; Hunt with the Crusaders; Gatland with the Landers etc. I'm not sure who the Magpies back-up for Falcon is goint to be, but if it's McClutchie, he'll not be ready for SR. Not sure what the situation is in other Mitre 10 Cup teams, but good 10s are a rare species. Josh Ioane disappointed for the Highlanders last week. Te Rure is the only one I can think off, but why did he fail in Scotland?
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@stargazer isnt that JGB & West next in line behind BB, meaning the next guy they sign is theoretically 3rd anyway, so more a development option, which is what M10 Cup is, or was seen as, the pathway to super rugby...more so that M10 Cup hasnt even kicked off and 1 less spot is taken, potentially by someone not playing M10 Cup.
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@taniwharugby West is moving to France after this year's SR season, yes. Marshall will be 2nd, JGB will stay third and TJ Va'a (if they keep him/if he's staying) is 4th. If they hadn't signed Marshall, JGB would have become 2nd. No way, you'd want JGB as BB's back-up.
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@stargazer said in Super Rugby News:
@taniwharugby West is moving to France after this year's SR season, yes. Marshall will be 2nd, JGB will stay third and TJ Va'a (if they keep him/if he's staying) is 4th. If they hadn't signed Marshall, JGB would have become 2nd. No way, you'd want JGB as BB's back-up.
Especially in a World Cup year where there might be extended resting during the Super season.
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@taniwharugby said in Super Rugby News:
@stargazer ah ok, so you are cool with NZR basically saying none of you other 10s out there are upto super rugby next year, so hard luck?
The bigger issue with this signing is that NZR are not discouraging young players from going overseas to earn some coin if there is a good chance they'll get a SR contract if they decide to return to NZ. It does send the wrong message.
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@stargazer it's the same point I was making, just explained differently; that IF he doesnt play M10 Cup and plays super rugby it is showing the next wave of kids that NZR rugby doesnt value M10 Cup, so another pathway is to piss off overseas.
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Refs for the weekend:
Hurricanes [4] v Chiefs [5]@ Westpac Stadium, Wellington
Date Friday 20 July
Kick-off 19:35 localReferee Glen Jackson
AR1 Nick Briant
AR2 Paul Williams
TMO Glenn NewmanCrusaders [1] v Sharks [8] @ AMI Stadium, Christchurch
Date Saturday 21 July
Kick-off 19:35 localReferee Mike Fraser
AR1 Ben O'Keeffe
AR2 Brendon Pickerill
TMO Shane McDermottWaratahs [3] v Highlanders [6] @ Allianz Stadium, Sydney
Date Saturday 21 July
Kick-off 20:05 localReferee Angus Gardner
AR1 Nic Berry
AR2 Will Houston
TMO George AyoubLions [2] v Jaguares [7] @ Emirates Airline Park, Johannesburg
Date Saturday 21 July
Kick-off 15:05 localReferee Jaco Peyper
AR1 Marius van der Westhuizen
AR2 Egon Seconds
TMO Marius Jonker -
@bones said in Super Rugby News:
Would be good if they picked up someone like Gear to replace Lowe...
Rico must be in his 40's by now but he probably still goes fairly well.
Meanwhile, the Chiefs look like they have midfield spot open with the idiot going to Japan and Maori Jesus walking across the water to France, so Lowe should head there.
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@barbarian said in Super Rugby News:
Refs for the weekend:
Hurricanes [4] v Chiefs [5]@ Westpac Stadium, Wellington
Date Friday 20 July
Kick-off 19:35 localReferee Glen Jackson
Well that explains the TAB odds.
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TMO George Ayoub the poor Highlanders
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@nepia said in Super Rugby News:
@bones said in Super Rugby News:
Would be good if they picked up someone like Gear to replace Lowe...
Rico must be in his 40's by now but he probably still goes fairly well.
He's only got the Chiefs and Canes to go to make the full set of NZ super rugby teams. There are 9 other provinces he can choose from too.
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@no-quarter said in Super Rugby News:
@barbarian said in Super Rugby News:
Refs for the weekend:
Hurricanes [4] v Chiefs [5]@ Westpac Stadium, Wellington
Date Friday 20 July
Kick-off 19:35 localReferee Glen Jackson
Well that explains the TAB odds.
It’s a real conundrum, a former Chiefs player reffing the Hurricanes v Chiefs at Welly.
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@footy01 said in Super Rugby News:
Jordie has never played first 5 in his life, only against the lions for the canes for about 20 minutes
And did a better job in that 20 minutes than any of the other “prospects” floating around.
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Not to mention an Aussie reffing Tahs/Clan and a Saffer on Lions/Jags.
Why open yourself up to criticism like this? I don't demand neutral refs in all circumstances, but surely Jacko could do Lions/Jags, Peyper could do Tahs/Clan and Gardner could do Chiefs/Canes and we'd remove any chance of a 'ref bias' accusation by any team or fanbase...
