• Categories
Collapse

The Silver Fern

Super Rugby News

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Sports Talk
5.2k Posts 139 Posters 1.4m Views
Super Rugby News
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • ToddyT Offline
    ToddyT Offline
    Toddy
    replied to mariner4life on last edited by
    #3646

    @mariner4life obviously not. He's banned for 6 weeks.

    mariner4lifeM 1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • Chris B.C Offline
    Chris B.C Offline
    Chris B.
    replied to Tim on last edited by
    #3647

    @tim said in Super Rugby News:

    TAB odds for Hurricanes/Chiefs quarterfinal:

    Hurricanes
    1.45
    Chiefs
    2.60

    Very generous odds for the Chiefs.

    Yeah - the Canes have been very scratchy for the past couple of months.

    Snuck home against the Reds 38-34, followed by losses to the Crusaders and Highlanders, the June break, a loss to the Brumbies, beating the Blues and a loss to the Chiefs.

    Admittedly their losses are all away from home, but confidence is going to be low.

    ToddyT 1 Reply Last reply
    3
  • mariner4lifeM Offline
    mariner4lifeM Offline
    mariner4life
    replied to Toddy on last edited by
    #3648

    @toddy said in Super Rugby News:

    @mariner4life obviously not. He's banned for 6 weeks.

    yes, i saw that. And already replied i thought it was over the top.

    2 weeks would have been right

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • taniwharugbyT Offline
    taniwharugbyT Offline
    taniwharugby
    replied to KiwiMurph on last edited by taniwharugby
    #3649

    @kiwimurph yea well 2 weeks on for being a dick before and 2 off for being sorry, probably again...makes sense 😉

    @Stargazer happy for you. The punishments and decisions do appear inconsistent to fans like me who can't be arsed reading the judicial reports, and I'd say I am in the >90% of other fans who don't read judicial reports unless they get publicised when the nh scribes want everyone to know we get away with shit.

    StargazerS 1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • ToddyT Offline
    ToddyT Offline
    Toddy
    replied to Chris B. on last edited by
    #3650

    @chris-b said in Super Rugby News:

    @tim said in Super Rugby News:

    TAB odds for Hurricanes/Chiefs quarterfinal:

    Hurricanes
    1.45
    Chiefs
    2.60

    Very generous odds for the Chiefs.

    Yeah - the Canes have been very scratchy for the past couple of months.

    Snuck home against the Reds 38-34, followed by losses to the Crusaders and Highlanders, the June break, a loss to the Brumbies, beating the Blues and a loss to the Chiefs.

    Admittedly their losses are all away from home, but confidence is going to be low.

    Chiefs definitely worth putting money, especially as an insurance bet for any Canes fans.

    Canes forwards have been absolute shit since the Crusaders dominated them in the return game. Chiefs have the 2nd best drilled pack in NZ and the backs to take advantage of it.

    1 Reply Last reply
    2
  • StargazerS Offline
    StargazerS Offline
    Stargazer
    replied to taniwharugby on last edited by Stargazer
    #3651

    @taniwharugby All the decisions of the Foul Play Review Committee are published on SANZAAR's website (after a few days, presumably because there's an appeal period): https://sanzarrugby.com/superrugby/documents/judiciary/

    The fact that fans don't read decisions doesn't make the decisions inconsistent. If they appear inconsistent, who's fault is that? Certainly not SANZAAR's but everyone just loves to blame them or their judicial officers/committees. I think a lot of fans, and media, just don't realise that they may not understand what they're reading (or the way judicial procedures work). And the media, well, they're often lazy and manipulate "facts" to get more clicks. But most readers know that, don't they? Certainly on the Fern, everyone knows how shit some journos are.

    That's why I never post the Stuff, NZH or other media articles about the judicial decisions, because often they do not contain (all) the relevant considerations of the judicial committees. I only post the texts that seem to be quoted literally from the decisions (or press releases that we don't get to see). That makes Planetrugby, for example, a good site, because they usually publish the text, instead of trying to give their own spin on it. But there's nothing I can do, of course, to make people understand what they're reading, except by replying to comments that IMO are incorrect ... (I have a legal background (a.o.), btw).

    taniwharugbyT 1 Reply Last reply
    1
  • StargazerS Offline
    StargazerS Offline
    Stargazer
    wrote on last edited by
    #3652

    1 Reply Last reply
    4
  • NepiaN Offline
    NepiaN Offline
    Nepia
    wrote on last edited by
    #3653

    I'm happy with six weeks because he's an idiot who keeps doing that over and over again and he's only lucky he doesn't connect every time. Maybe he'll learn his lesson now.

    1 Reply Last reply
    3
  • taniwharugbyT Offline
    taniwharugbyT Offline
    taniwharugby
    replied to Stargazer on last edited by taniwharugby
    #3654

    @stargazer you have kinda backed up what I was alluding to

    I would be surprised if there are more than 3 people on here that read all the decisions, as most people, like me would simply read the brief (started at 6, increased by 2 because of priors and discounted by 2 because he felt bad) therefore, I do feel it is SANZARs job to change peoples perceptions of inconsistencies, not to mention like you say, many would read a 'legal' decision and not understand it anyway.

    I see that RC from the Sunwolves game was not overturned either, and copped a ban.

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • mimicM Offline
    mimicM Offline
    mimic
    replied to Stargazer on last edited by
    #3655

    @stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

    Ardie Savea and Jordie Barrett have re-signed with NZR and the Hurricanes, both through to the end of the 2019 season.

    But why one year only? Especially Jordie?

    http://www.allblacks.com/News/32696/ardie-savea-and-jordie-barrett-recommit-to-new-zealand-rugby

    JB is waiting for Tana to leave the Blues.
    JB to be the saviour of the Blues for 2020.

    StargazerS 1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • StargazerS Offline
    StargazerS Offline
    Stargazer
    replied to mimic on last edited by
    #3656

    @mimic Haha, I've heard another one today: Jordie only accepting a contract until the end of 2019, because that's when Beauden leaves for Europe; when that happens, Jordie wants to play in the same team as his other brother and will go back to Chch to join the Crusaders.

    1 Reply Last reply
    1
  • StargazerS Offline
    StargazerS Offline
    Stargazer
    wrote on last edited by
    #3657
    "He'll do what's best for the team; that's the mark of the man. He'd love to be able to carry on and play the rest of the season but, if he's not right, he'll have to pull out and we'll go with the others," Plumtree said of loose forward Shields on Monday.
    
    "Reed [Prinsep] has been going great and we've got Gareth as well, so we've got some good players in that position and Brad knows that."
    
     And then there's Goosen, whose participation at centre would allow the Hurricanes to leave Jordie Barrett at fullback. If he's unable to pass his return to play protocols, then it's likely Barrett will go to 13, with Nehe Milner-Skudder at fullback, Julian Savea and Ben Lam on the wings and someone drafted onto the subs' bench.
    
    "Wes is trucking along pretty and we're hoping by Thursday-Friday he will have gone through the protocols and be able to take a place in the starting 23," said Plumtree.
    
    Which is slightly at odds with the preferred method of not investing in guys who might not to be right by the weekend.
    
    "With Brad there's an exception because of the fact he's the captain and we will give Brad time," Plumtree said.
    
    "Not sure what's going to happen with Wes. Obviously with a head injury it's slightly different, so what part Wes plays in training this week we'll have to wait and see."
    

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/105512713/Wes-Goosen-and-Brad-Shields-uncertain-starters-for-the-desperate-Hurricanes

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • TimT Away
    TimT Away
    Tim
    wrote on last edited by
    #3658

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/105509422/crusaders-lose-moody-for-super-rugby-sudden-death-game

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • BovidaeB Offline
    BovidaeB Offline
    Bovidae
    wrote on last edited by
    #3659

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/105510831/jordie-barrett-and-ardie-savea-recommit-to-hurricanes-and-nz-rugby

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • StargazerS Offline
    StargazerS Offline
    Stargazer
    wrote on last edited by Stargazer
    #3660

    .

    .

    PS: it's not online, yet.

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
  • taniwharugbyT Offline
    taniwharugbyT Offline
    taniwharugby
    wrote on last edited by
    #3661

    isnt there a meeting in San Fran of all the games Big Wigs in the next week or 2 to discuss some of the issues surrounding the TMO, RC's etc

    1 Reply Last reply
    1
  • Chester DrawsC Offline
    Chester DrawsC Offline
    Chester Draws
    wrote on last edited by
    #3662

    @stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

    @mimic Haha, I've heard another one today: Jordie only accepting a contract until the end of 2019, because that's when Beauden leaves for Europe; when that happens, Jordie wants to play in the same team as his other brother and will go back to Chch to join the Crusaders.

    Is he 12?

    Who bases their career on where their brother works? I can understand being closer to family, but that would mean staying with the Hurricanes (or Chiefs).

    1 Reply Last reply
    2
  • StargazerS Offline
    StargazerS Offline
    Stargazer
    wrote on last edited by
    #3663

    You're taking that way too seriously! 🙂

    1 Reply Last reply
    1
  • KiwiMurphK Offline
    KiwiMurphK Offline
    KiwiMurph
    wrote on last edited by
    #3664

    alt text

    1 Reply Last reply
    1
  • StargazerS Offline
    StargazerS Offline
    Stargazer
    wrote on last edited by Stargazer
    #3665

    Told ya! James Marshall is returning to the Hurricanes for the 2019 season. He'll be a good back-up for BB.

    The Hurricanes have also re-signed Alex Fidow (2019) and Reed Prinsep (2020).

    James Marshall returns to Hurricanes for 2019

    James Marshall returns to Hurricanes for 2019
    1 Reply Last reply
    1

Super Rugby News
Sports Talk
  • Login

  • Don't have an account? Register

  • Login or register to search.
  • First post
    Last post
0
  • Categories
  • Login

  • Don't have an account? Register

  • Login or register to search.