Chiefs all time XV
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@nepia I know that but without trawling through every Chiefs squad to see if they drafted any players we didn't supply props or locks (Kamo apart) in 96-98. This was the hey day of the Brown Bros. Tight forwards were only chosen for Harbour if they were de facto blindsides
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@mikedogz said in Chiefs all time XV:
Changed slightly if I used other criteria as well
1 Pauliasi Manu
2 Guy Coleman
3 Nepo Laulala
4 Toby Lynn
5 Mark Burman
6 Koula Tukino
7 Wayne McEntee
8 Errol Brain
9 David Bason
10 Beaver
11 Roger Randle
12 Bundee Aki
13 Richard Kahui
14 Declan O'Donnell
15 Mils MuliainaWhatever happened to that joker? He looked the part but then literally vanished off the face of the earth ( even in the early 2000s if was usually pretty easy to find out if someone had gone overseas but not him, he was like a ghost )
Awesome player when in form.
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Yeah, it's a sign of how things have changed. Once upon a time, we had a really strong club (and school), where plenty would come (they used to get shared around more too, I assume).
I was sure that we had a hooker in the chiefs squad at some point, and there must be another winger. I started looking but it's much harder to find old squads than it should be.
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@gt12 said in Chiefs all time XV:
Yeah, it's a sign of how things have changed. Once upon a time, we had a really strong club (and school), where plenty would come (they used to get shared around more too, I assume).
I was sure that we had a hooker in the chiefs squad at some point, and there must be another winger. I started looking but it's much harder to find old squads than it should be.
Only in the Chiefs thread would you find a post about sharing around hookers. Some things never change.
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@bones said in Chiefs all time XV:
@gt12 said in Chiefs all time XV:
Yeah, it's a sign of how things have changed. Once upon a time, we had a really strong club (and school), where plenty would come (they used to get shared around more too, I assume).
I was sure that we had a hooker in the chiefs squad at some point, and there must be another winger. I started looking but it's much harder to find old squads than it should be.
Only in the Chiefs thread would you find a post about sharing around hookers. Some things never change.
This is your best ever post.
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@mn5 said in Chiefs all time XV:
@bones said in Chiefs all time XV:
@gt12 said in Chiefs all time XV:
Yeah, it's a sign of how things have changed. Once upon a time, we had a really strong club (and school), where plenty would come (they used to get shared around more too, I assume).
I was sure that we had a hooker in the chiefs squad at some point, and there must be another winger. I started looking but it's much harder to find old squads than it should be.
Only in the Chiefs thread would you find a post about sharing around hookers. Some things never change.
This is your best ever post.
"Here come the gays!"
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@gt12 said in Chiefs all time XV:
Or Stormy or Glen Osbourne or Walter Little?
Or Monkley or Fozzie
Wash your mouth out. Or disinfect your hands or something.
How about Erroll Brain? He always performed farking well in a very inconsistent team.
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Koula Tukino
Whatever happened to that joker? He looked the part but then literally vanished off the face of the earth ( even in the early 2000s if was usually pretty easy to find out if someone had gone overseas but not him, he was like a ghost )
Awesome player when in form.
I believe he ended up in Italy for a while. Not very professional but Mitchell got him sorted for a while. When Counties had that shit season before relegation he didn't turn up to the last game against Auckland.
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Nowhere near Deon Muir if that is the metric for selection.
I've revised some of my selections from earlier, after reading @mariner4life 's and @Bovidae 's teams (i.e., taking things a bit more seriously).
Much of the spine of my team comes from the title winning side now, so TKB moves back to start, with Messam, TKB, Cruden, SBW the heart of the attack. Sona and Ben T have to come from the bench,
I still can't get Holah starting, without moving Cane, which I'm loathe to do, so he'll have to come off the bench with Lauaki.
Jono to start and captain from six, which means Messam moves to eight. Old school front row, with plenty of impact from the bench. Jono covers lock, and we can let Lauaki have 20-30 fun minutes, especially if we are playing the Blues.
Kahui (and SBW) covers wing, and I wanted a place for Little, but he's the first name I'd switch out.
1 Michael Collins
2 Tom Willis
3 Nathan White
4 Keith Robinson
5 Brodie Retallick
6 Jono Gibbes (c)
7 Sam Cane
8 Liam Messam
9 TKB
10 Aaron Cruden
11 Sitiveni Sivivatu
12 SBW
13 Kahui
14 Bruce Reihana
15 Mils Muliaina
16 Hika Elliot
17 Sona Taumalolo
18 Ben Tameifuna
19 Marty Holah
20 Sione Lauaki
21 Byron Kelleher
22 Beaver
23 Walter LittleLeonard is unlucky, as is Stormy, who I love, but I can't find a place for him. Umaga too, who was getting old by the time he showed up, plus Bunce (same problem, really), and Osbourne, who I don't think really turned out for us many times. Lomu only scored a handful of tries in one season, so he technically has to go too. I'm still tempted to keep Mealamu because I remember him being amazing in his one season with us. Reihana moves to the wing, because I want a FB/wing - even thought he didn't play that much there, which makes Randle probably one of the most unlucky.
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@gt12 said in Chiefs all time XV:
Nowhere near Deon Muir if that is the metric for selection.
I've revised some of my selections from earlier, after reading @mariner4life 's and @Bovidae 's teams (i.e., taking things a bit more seriously).
Much of the spine of my team comes from the title winning side now, so TKB moves back to start, with Messam, TKB, Cruden, SBW the heart of the attack. Sona and Ben T have to come from the bench,
I still can't get Holah starting, without moving Cane, which I'm loathe to do, so he'll have to come off the bench with Lauaki.
Jono to start and captain from six, which means Messam moves to eight. Old school front row, with plenty of impact from the bench. Jono covers lock, and we can let Lauaki have 20-30 fun minutes, especially if we are playing the Blues.
Kahui (and SBW) covers wing, and I wanted a place for Little, but he's the first name I'd switch out.
1 Michael Collins
2 Tom Willis
3 Nathan White
4 Keith Robinson
5 Brodie Retallick
6 Jono Gibbes (c)
7 Sam Cane
8 Liam Messam
9 TKB
10 Aaron Cruden
11 Sitiveni Sivivatu
12 SBW
13 Kahui
14 Bruce Reihana
15 Mils Muliaina
16 Hika Elliot
17 Sona Taumalolo
18 Ben Tameifuna
19 Marty Holah
20 Sione Lauaki
21 Byron Kelleher
22 Beaver
23 Walter LittleLeonard is unlucky, as is Stormy, who I love, but I can't find a place for him. Umaga too, who was getting old by the time he showed up, plus Bunce (same problem, really), and Osbourne, who I don't think really turned out for us many times. Lomu only scored a handful of tries in one season, so he technically has to go too. I'm still tempted to keep Mealamu because I remember him being amazing in his one season with us. Reihana moves to the wing, because I want a FB/wing - even thought he didn't play that much there, which makes Randle probably one of the most unlucky.
Surely Kelleher starts ahead of TKB? I know TKB was there during the glory days but TKB isn't in the same league as BK as an attacking scrum-half.
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Yes, but I like his potential impact of the bench, while TKB might be one of the best defensive HBs ever. They could be switched pretty easily though. Leonard is unlucky, because he would be good at that role and is the third HB in my squad.
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@bovidae said in Chiefs all time XV:
The last Te Rapa club game I watched was when I went to watch Mils returning from a shoulder injury. Kahui was also playing that day.
That's one thing the older guys at Te Rapa miss, being able to play with and against higher level players. I just missed playing with Sivivatu when I was at Frankton although we were his club at the time.
A couple of years ago at Te Rapa we had a Pre season game against Otorohanga B's while their A squad was away at a camp. It was a surprise to see Liam Squire having a run.
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@mikedogz said in Chiefs all time XV:
@bovidae said in Chiefs all time XV:
The last Te Rapa club game I watched was when I went to watch Mils returning from a shoulder injury. Kahui was also playing that day.
That's one thing the older guys at Te Rapa miss, being able to play with and against higher level players. I just missed playing with Sivivatu when I was at Frankton although we were his club at the time.
A couple of years ago at Te Rapa we had a Pre season game against Otorohanga B's while their A squad was away at a camp. It was a surprise to see Liam Squire having a run.
Apparently he's a good guy to have a feed with according to old mate @jegga, have you heard that story?
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@mikedogz said in Chiefs all time XV:
That's one thing the older guys at Te Rapa miss, being able to play with and against higher level players. I just missed playing with Sivivatu when I was at Frankton although we were his club at the time.
That's how club rugby seems to be now, unfortunately. There aren't as many veterans playing, much less former ABs. That's why it was great to see Holah still playing for Marist a few years ago.
Speaking of Siti, I also went to watch him play a game for Frankton on a heavy and muddy Swarbrick Park when he needed to prove his fitness to be selected for the ABs after an injury. He carved the opposition up from centre. Anesi also turned up to see him in action. I don't know how many other games he played for them.