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  • DuluthD Offline
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    replied to Chester Draws on last edited by
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    @chester-draws said in Blues 2018:

    Garland would not be my first choice though. We have succeeded by being more innovative. Warrenball isn't going to help.

    Anything would be an improvement..

    I think Gatland is a far better coach than he was a decade ago. The warrenball term still has some truth, but not as much as when he coached Wasps or Waikato.

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    A combination of Cory Brown and Tom Coventry is my preference.

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    @duluth

    No way did Gatland use Warrenball when he coached Waikato. The midfield was Hill and Kahui, hardly crash and bash midfielders.

    The only thing he introduced from his time up north was a rush defence.

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    Gatland would bring:

    • Credibility
    • Standards
    • Coaching nous
    • Discipline

    What's not to like?

    Edit: Also, i suspect he doesn't jump into burning dumpsters like the Blues though...

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    @nzzp said in Blues 2018:

    Gatland would bring:

    • Credibility
    • Standards
    • Coaching nous
    • Discipline

    What's not to like?

    Edit: Also, i suspect he doesn't jump into burning dumpsters like the Blues though...

    Wales?

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    Id take Gatland in a heartbeat. He'd have enough sway where he could buy in into his vision and the changes required.

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    @nzzp said in Blues 2018:

    Gatland would bring:

    • Credibility
    • Standards
    • Coaching nous
    • Discipline

    What's not to like?

    Edit: Also, i suspect he doesn't jump into burning dumpsters like the Blues though...

    Also excessive twatishness - remember how he got on the Lions tour?

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    @nepia said in Blues 2018:

    Also excessive twatishness - remember how he got on the Lions tour?

    On a related point..

    How many friends does Gatland have at the NZRU? How many does Umaga have? I suspect thats more important than pesky rugby reasons

    Personally I would much rather have a competent disliked coach.

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    replied to Duluth on last edited by
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    @duluth said in Blues 2018:

    @nepia said in Blues 2018:

    Also excessive twatishness - remember how he got on the Lions tour?

    On a related point..

    How many friends does Gatland have at the NZRU? How many does Umaga have? I suspect thats more important than pesky rugby reasons

    Personally I would much rather have a competent disliked coach.

    Who did you want, that would have applied, when Umaga was appointed?

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    @nepia

    Pivac

    But I was happy to judge Umaga after three years

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    replied to Duluth on last edited by
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    @duluth said in Blues 2018:

    @nepia

    Pivac

    But I was happy to judge Umaga after three years

    Did Pivac apply, I can't remember that far back. Weird that he's never had a shot at the Blues though.

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    Yes, the coaching appointments can be political. I've heard a few stories about coaches missing out on positions based on the word of other connected coaches.

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    @nepia said in Blues 2018:

    Did Pivac apply, I can't remember that far back. Weird that he's never had a shot at the Blues though.

    Was it advertised? I can't remember.. I think the board gave up on Matson/Kirwan when Umaga was interested

    Pivac applied a lot though. He doesn't have the right friends.

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    #615

    @duluth It was always a mystery as to why Pivac never got an opportunity. Sums up our organisation when far inferior appointments have been made.

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    #616

    Sigh. Scanned twitter to see if Tana had quit.

    Nope.

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  • Chester DrawsC Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
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    Sorry, I was unclear. I don't want Gatland for the ABs.

    The Blues would be mental to not take him.

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    Looks like Kieran Keane is going to be looking for a job.

    You could sign him for a year with the carrot if he shows evident improvement he'll be signed for more time and if he doesn't he's replaced by Gatland.

    He's a prickly customer - not afraid to rub people the wrong way. Not one of NZR's favourite sons!

    On the other hand, his style doesn't seem to have worked very well at Connacht.

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    @chris-b said in Blues 2018:

    Looks like Kieran Keane is going to be looking for a job.

    You could sign him for a year with the carrot if he shows evident improvement he'll be signed for more time and if he doesn't he's replaced by Gatland.

    He's a prickly customer - not afraid to rub people the wrong way. Not one of NZR's favourite sons!

    On the other hand, his style doesn't seem to have worked very well at Connacht.

    Sound like Henry. Maybe we need another headmaster type.

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    @kirwan

    Similar type - pretty grumpy, but apparently a mentor of Wayne Smith in his early days.

    Would be a change from celebrity coaches.... 🙂

    Here's an article that lays out his "manifesto".

    http://www.mako.nz/news/Mako$-stint-highlight-of-coach-keanes-career-so-far

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