Blues 2018
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@bovidae said in Blues 2018:
OK. Your last sentence confused me as I thought you were saying you would choose Foster over Gatland for either coaching position.
Nope. My preference is for Gatland in 2020 (assuming the rumours are correct and that he wants the job)
I think his style would be a good fit.That leaves the problem of what to do next year. To be honest, I would be happy with any caretaker coach.
Unfortunately, the partially leaked reappointment of Umaga seems to make a Gatland appointment less likely.
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I suspect Waikato fans are more opposed to Foster than others. They had to watch his teams fail year after year in more detail.He's a nice guy, and a great technical coach, but he doesn't have what it takes to select well, and his teams are, let us say, variable in terms of mental preparation.
There is no shortage of qualified Kiwis with successful resumes. Why would you pick one with conspicuous failures?
Garland would not be my first choice though. We have succeeded by being more innovative. Warrenball isn't going to help.
I'm all for Foster going to the Blues though. It won't help them, but it might finally destroy the chance of Foster getting the ABs.
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@chester-draws were plenty opposed to Hansen 'taking over' from Henry too...
Guess we will start to see the value of Hansen & Foster this year without Smith in thier team
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@chester-draws said in Blues 2018:
Garland would not be my first choice though. We have succeeded by being more innovative. Warrenball isn't going to help.
Anything would be an improvement..
I think Gatland is a far better coach than he was a decade ago. The warrenball term still has some truth, but not as much as when he coached Wasps or Waikato.
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@nzzp said in Blues 2018:
Gatland would bring:
- Credibility
- Standards
- Coaching nous
- Discipline
What's not to like?
Edit: Also, i suspect he doesn't jump into burning dumpsters like the Blues though...
Also excessive twatishness - remember how he got on the Lions tour?
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@nepia said in Blues 2018:
Also excessive twatishness - remember how he got on the Lions tour?
On a related point..
How many friends does Gatland have at the NZRU? How many does Umaga have? I suspect thats more important than pesky rugby reasons
Personally I would much rather have a competent disliked coach.
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@duluth said in Blues 2018:
@nepia said in Blues 2018:
Also excessive twatishness - remember how he got on the Lions tour?
On a related point..
How many friends does Gatland have at the NZRU? How many does Umaga have? I suspect thats more important than pesky rugby reasons
Personally I would much rather have a competent disliked coach.
Who did you want, that would have applied, when Umaga was appointed?
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@nepia said in Blues 2018:
Did Pivac apply, I can't remember that far back. Weird that he's never had a shot at the Blues though.
Was it advertised? I can't remember.. I think the board gave up on Matson/Kirwan when Umaga was interested
Pivac applied a lot though. He doesn't have the right friends.
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Sorry, I was unclear. I don't want Gatland for the ABs.
The Blues would be mental to not take him.
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Looks like Kieran Keane is going to be looking for a job.
You could sign him for a year with the carrot if he shows evident improvement he'll be signed for more time and if he doesn't he's replaced by Gatland.
He's a prickly customer - not afraid to rub people the wrong way. Not one of NZR's favourite sons!
On the other hand, his style doesn't seem to have worked very well at Connacht.
