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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    Ah, David Braithwaite. The mayor we were very happy to vote out. This isn't an endorsement of Redman, but take Braithwaite's comments with a huge (bitter) grain of salt.

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    Here's part of Redman's press conference

    Nice to here Andrew Saville ask some tough questions - at least someone in the media is!

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    @kiwimurph said in Blues 2018:

    Nice to here Andrew Saville ask some tough questions - at least someone in the media is!

    There's a few people starting to do it. You just won't find them at Sky or the NZH. The Herald reporters are unprofessional sycophants who are doing their readers a disservice. I have more sympathy for the talking heads at Sky as the majority of them played with Umaga and have personal loyalties.

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    Comments on that press conference..

    Redman is an deeply unimpressive individual. No wonder nothing gets fixed. Sack him first.

    It sounds like they are going to blame the other coaches but keep Umaga as a figure head. So who appointed those coaches? What input did Tana have in picking those coaches. If those coaches deserve the blame surely the people that appointed them should fuck off too? Is the board ever responsible for anything?

    Excuse after excuse from Redman, the same lack of responsibility that is shown by Umaga. That lack of accountability starts at the top and flows all the way down to the players. The Blues shitness is just something external that happens to the team. No one in the organisation has any power to fix it. It's always and complex and external situation. Fucken gutless fluffybunnies the lot of them.

    Whats with this myth that the Blues constantly change coaches?? Three coaches in the last decade (4 years, 3 years, 3 years so far). Bullshit.

    On a positive note at least the NZRU still has a major say. They should be extremely concerned about the damage the Blues are doing to rugby in the region. The timing of the Warriors form turnaround and great crowds will be adding extra pressure.
    The NZRU can't rely on this incompetent board that refuses any responsibility to fix professional rugby in the most populous region.

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    @duluth said in Blues 2018:

    On a positive note at least the NZRU still has a major say. They should be extremely concerned about the damage the Blues are doing to rugby in the region. The timing of the Warriors form turnaround and great crowds will be adding extra pressure.
    The NZRU can't rely on this incompetent board that refuses any responsibility to fix professional rugby in the most populous region.

    I don't have much faith in the NZRU. They've done fuck all to help up til now and if the comments in the press conference are anything to go by they want Tana retained.

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    @kiwimurph said in Blues 2018:

    I don't have much faith in the NZRU

    Same, but I have more faith in them than I do in the Blues

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    @kiwimurph it is an odd conundrum really, NZR are usually so good at sorting out issues internally and forging a path to success, yet the Blues seem to be lurching from bad to worse with little or no intervention from NZR...have to doubt NZR would be doing stuff on the quiet.

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    If Umaga is re-signed then surely the sensible option is a 1-year extension with the caveat that only a playoff spot will guarantee further employment. Otherwise, you're out the door. That also bridges the gap to have a run for Gatland if there is no on-field improvement.

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    My guess he has signed already. They expect to beat the Jaguares this weekend and are waiting until after a win to announce it officially.

    McKendry and Paul will write some borderline retarded puff pieces about turning the corner, staying the course and claim progress has been made

    PR masterminds

    Meanwhile nothing is fixed. The organisation will bumble on and continue making excuses about how the fate of the Blues is not in the boards or coaches hands. There are external forces that the simple fans could never hope to understand. They think the fans are stupid. They treat us with contempt.

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    @duluth said in Blues 2018:

    My guess he has signed already. They expect to beat the Jaguares this weekend and are waiting until after a win to announce it officially.

    McKendry and Paul will write some borderline retarded puff pieces about turning the corner, staying the course and claim progress has been made

    PR masterminds

    Meanwhile nothing is fixed. The organisation will bumble on and continue making excuses about how the fate of the Blues is not in the boards or coaches hands. There are external forces that the simple fans could never hope to understand. They think the fans are stupid. They treat us with contempt.

    And if we lose?

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    @jk

    It gets pushed back another week.. and another..

    Until success! Everything is going great! People keep their salaries and save face!

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    @duluth

    If things don't go their way it could be a long wait - June 2nd? If they don't beat Jaguares, then they need to front in Sydney against Waratahs to keep the NZ/Aus sequence going.

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    In an odd way I think the Blues underperformance has been good for NZ rugby. It means we can consistently have 4 teams in the playoffs and the Blues can play spoiler to the rest of the competition. They are not embarrisingly bad and can still supply test players to the All Blacks.

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    In the short term perhaps.

    In the long term a poor franchise in the largest market is not a good look. Especially when that market has a direct competitor in another sport. NZ Rugby are lucky the Warriors have also been a bumbling mess until this season.

    This is the 7th straight season the Blues have been mediocre or worse.

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    @kiwimurph said in Blues 2018:

    Here's part of Redman's press conference

    Nice to here Andrew Saville ask some tough questions - at least someone in the media is!

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    There's a different edit of this interview where Redman claims to have a good working relationship with the unions inside the region. Haha he's a liar.

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    Mark Watson didn’t hold back on Radio Sport this afternoon (filling in for D’arcy Waldegrave)
    There’s even a conspiracy theory they are keeping Tana as coach so SBW sticks around

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    @virgil he rarely does hold back, did he demand an apology as he did last year from the ABs after losing to Aus?

    He reckons the Blues should offer Jack Goodhue the captaincy to get him 'back' up here, get Bryn Hall back...

    How long has Redman been CEO?

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    @taniwharugby said in Blues 2018:

    How long has Redman been CEO?

    Since late 2013

    So his tenure includes signing Benji Marshall, wanting to keep Kirwan after three years via the Matson deal, appointing Umaga and now probably extending him

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  • MokeyM Offline
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    Michael Redman. LOL. One of the main problems right there.

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    @mokey

    From Wikipedia below - he just sounds like the real go-getter you want to turn around an organisation......

    Michael Gerard Redman (born 4 March 1966) is a former New Zealand local government administrator and past politician.
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