Hurricanes v Chiefs
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I just think he's more suited to 7s - he'd be a fucking beast in that format, would create try after try after try. But without space he panics, and his lack of size really counts against him.
If he's already struggling with the lack of space at SR level then he's in for a world of hurt at test level.
Realistically 14 or 15 are the only positions I can see him doing OK in.
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@nzzp said in Hurricanes v Chiefs:
I'm interested in how DMac will go with better coaching. He creates things with his pace and body movement that are undefendable. However, he's currently mixing that with horrible mistakes and errors of judgement. I guess Hansen will figure out if they can coach the downside out of him.
Only at fullback at SR level.
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@stargazer Nah he does the same at international level, just not as often. But his many errors are also punished harder. I'm very interested in what the Wise Men go with for this squad, with all the injuries and guys coming back from injuries. Are they going to trust in people who have had no game time? Are they going to blood some more and give dirt trackers more runs with an eye on the RWC? Interesting.
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@stargazer said in Hurricanes v Chiefs:
@nzzp said in Hurricanes v Chiefs:
I'm interested in how DMac will go with better coaching. He creates things with his pace and body movement that are undefendable. However, he's currently mixing that with horrible mistakes and errors of judgement. I guess Hansen will figure out if they can coach the downside out of him.
Only at fullback at SR level.
Last year for the All Blacks I remember seeing him gas across the field, cut into a gap drawing two defenders and throw a magnificent pass.
He's doing it at international level - just not consistently enough yet, and with too many errors. He's special though, can see why he will be picked
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D Mac is getting a lot of hate on here but the Chiefs were losing last night. He was trying to do too much yes but he was also very dangerous. I still don't want him starting for the All Blacks but I thought he kept the Chiefs in it last night.
Barrett was also disappointing which no one on here seems to be mentioning. The cross field kick at 22-13 was a poor option for instance. The Hurricanes didn't really close the game down last night and that was disappointing.
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@hydro11 said in Hurricanes v Chiefs:
D Mac is getting a lot of hate on here but the Chiefs were losing last night.
In no small part due to him.
Barrett was also disappointing which no one on here seems to be mentioning. The cross field kick at 22-13 was a poor option for instance.
The option they scored off?
The very implication that DMac was good, but let down by his team whereas Beaudy was poor is taking the piss.
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@antipodean said in Hurricanes v Chiefs:
@hydro11 said in Hurricanes v Chiefs:
D Mac is getting a lot of hate on here but the Chiefs were losing last night.
In no small part due to him.
Barrett was also disappointing which no one on here seems to be mentioning. The cross field kick at 22-13 was a poor option for instance.
The option they scored off?
The very implication that DMac was good, but let down by his team whereas Beaudy was poor is taking the piss.
No, the crossfield kick for Laumape was a good option because we were under advantage. I am talking about the one he did at 22-13 for Aso I think it was? Alaimalo got the ball and countered. It was a poor option. At that point we needed to keep the ball and not give the Chiefs a chance to get back into it. The Chiefs tactical kicking was far superior in the last 25 minutes. A lot of that was due to Ngatai being awesome.
Barrett had a terrific game but a lot of people have been talking about controlling a game and how poor McKenzie (and Perofeta) have been at that. Barrett is not a lot better than D Mac at that. What he is good at is making sure the backline runs efficiently and that was the big different from last week with West playing.
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Barrett controlled the canes much better and against a much better side than West did last week. The canes couldn't even get out of their half. So I disagree, BB is one of the form tens in the world ATM, and his game is perfect for the way both the canes and ABs play. Listen to the neutrals - they agree.
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Remember too, that Beaudy got a lot of durespuct on here for his inability to control games. He still isn't probably a natural 10, and struggled at times. 10 is hard, people take time to grow into the role. He also used to be an absolute turnstile on defence - to the point some people were in teh 'never play for the ABs again mode'. Just like Nonu.
Anyway, the upsides of both Beaudy and DMac are apparent. Different players, different strengths, but great upside for both.
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@bones said in Hurricanes v Chiefs:
@kiwiinmelb I'd tend to disagree quite strongly there - Laumape is not even close to the player Nonu is - he's brutal, but the things that put Nonu above his peers (superb vision, deft passing, brilliant decisions), don't really feature in his arsenal. I can see him developing these assets though from the huge improvement he's shown in the last 2 years.
Laumape is class this year. My view he is playing consistently better rugby at super rugby level than Nonu did.
One issue now. Proctor with his new hair cut and Laumape look too much alike now. The commentators were as confused as me. Or maybe they caused the confusion
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@machpants said in Hurricanes v Chiefs:
Barrett controlled the canes much better and against a much better side than West did last week. The canes couldn't even get out of their half. So I disagree, BB is one of the form tens in the world ATM, and his game is perfect for the way both the canes and ABs play. Listen to the neutrals - they agree.
Barrett's strength now is the way he reads and controls a game. His play is a big part as to why the Canes play a more structured, sensible game now. I noticed the flaky, what the f++k are they doing, rugby creep back with West at first last week.
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@mariner4life said in Hurricanes v Chiefs:
We are so blessed that our lord and saviour, The Pimply Giraffe, is here to negate the player drain. How good is it having a guy who is a realistic test option in any position in the backline, whether he has played there or not.
We need a stronger word than overrated.
Pimply Giraffe......
This is some of your best work.
Amazing that a bloke who was nothing more than an honest trier can have such messiah like son's.
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This thread is comic gold. Basically, according to some, it appears that DMac is so shit he wouldn’t get a start for NIcks injury depleted 5th grade back blocks of Sydney side.
Conversely the Pimply Giraffe is so good in so many positions that he could probably cover our current prop crisis.
As an aside, about to board a plane to Oz with the Brumbies. Pocock is one guy who seems way smaller in real life than he does on the field.
Also saw Lisa Carrington earlier - way, way hotter in real life.
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@nepia said in Hurricanes v Chiefs:
Conversely the Pimply Giraffe is so good in so many positions that he could probably cover our current prop crisis.
Don't be ridiculous, he is too tall for prop.
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@crazy-horse said in Hurricanes v Chiefs:
@nepia said in Hurricanes v Chiefs:
Conversely the Pimply Giraffe is so good in so many positions that he could probably cover our current prop crisis.
Don't be ridiculous, he is too tall for prop.
If anyone could overcome that handicap Jesus of Hawera can. (Not sure if he’s Hawera, the Nakis all the same to me).
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@taniwharugby Like I said, smaller than what you’d think - even the guns.
Yep on Carrington, just never seen real life. She also had an extremely hot sporty looking mate as well.
