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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    @tim said in Exodus 2018:

    @chris-b Evans is a coach and Fitzpatrick is on their board.

    Yeah - I saw that - but, neither have been in NZ for a long time.

    Plenty of clubs in Europe (and Japan) with NZ Head Coaches and more NZers on their playing staffs (only Frances Saili at Quins from my cursory glance).

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    I wonder whether they'll try negotiating a deal with a French club as well. The last few years, AB coaches have attended and assisted at training sessions from ASM Clermont; not sure whether there are connections with other French clubs.

    Or maybe a Welsh or Irish PRO14 club?

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    @chris-b good spot, potential welcome back to Mr Saili. Well worth the deal.

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    Stunning arrogance. The most powerful rugby clubs in the world must be part hysterically amused, part affronted that New Zealand Rugby believes it can appoint itself as some kind of regulatory force in the global transfer market.

    The arrogance of this sits on multiple levels. The first and most galling part is the notion of NZR determining which clubs meet their approval. Surely diversity is to be celebrated in rugby and is the sport's major strength? NZR, though, appear to feel some need to homogenise the game, have everyone adopt a 'Kiwi' approach to training, skill development, workloads and culture.

    The bit that is hardest to stomach is this subliminal message that New Zealand doesn't have anything to learn from any other nation.

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    replied to Milk on last edited by Salacious Crumb
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    @milk said in Exodus 2018:

    The bit that is hardest to stomach is this subliminal message that New Zealand doesn't have anything to learn from any other nation.

    Yeah, I didn’t get quite nearly as wound up, but then I’m not a mind-reader and people tell me I have a cast-iron stomach.

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    @bones said in Exodus 2018:

    @chris-b good spot, potential welcome back to Mr Saili. Well worth the deal.

    Winston Stanley is at harlequins aswell I believe

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    @milk said in Exodus 2018:

    Stunning arrogance. The most powerful rugby clubs in the world must be part hysterically amused, part affronted that New Zealand Rugby believes it can appoint itself as some kind of regulatory force in the global transfer market.

    The more affronted they are the happier I will be.

    Those "pass the chequebook" clubs are wrecking Southern Hemisphere rugby for their own self-aggrandizement, so they can go fuck themselves!

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    @milk said in Exodus 2018:

    Stunning arrogance. The most powerful rugby clubs in the world must be part hysterically amused, part affronted that New Zealand Rugby believes it can appoint itself as some kind of regulatory force in the global transfer market.

    The arrogance of this sits on multiple levels. The first and most galling part is the notion of NZR determining which clubs meet their approval. Surely diversity is to be celebrated in rugby and is the sport's major strength? NZR, though, appear to feel some need to homogenise the game, have everyone adopt a 'Kiwi' approach to training, skill development, workloads and culture.

    The bit that is hardest to stomach is this subliminal message that New Zealand doesn't have anything to learn from any other nation.

    You sound like Gregor Paul (see his article in the ferald that was posted 23 days ago in this thread and the following discussion).

    I still fail to see the arrogance.

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    @stargazer That was a direct quote from the Gregor Paul article.

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    @tim What @Milk posted? Ah, plagiarism on the Fern!

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    I usually like Gregor Paul's articles and even the videos he does with Pat McKendry... But that article... I keep getting angrier the more I think about it. I just don't get it at all.

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    @milk its almost as if Paul went out of his way to attack the ABs/NZRU to help fight against claims that the Herald and the NZRU are in cahoots which has been suggested by The Clown and others.

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    @family-man said in Exodus 2018:

    @bones said in Exodus 2018:

    @chris-b good spot, potential welcome back to Mr Saili. Well worth the deal.

    Winston Stanley is at harlequins aswell I believe

    Midfield issues post WC solved in the stroke of a pen!

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    @family-man said in Exodus 2018:

    @bones said in Exodus 2018:

    @chris-b good spot, potential welcome back to Mr Saili. Well worth the deal.

    Winston Stanley is at harlequins aswell I believe

    He is, but he's a Samoan! 🙂

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    @majorrage said in Exodus 2018:

    The Tew article has been picked up by the Sneering Pommy media brigade the response is as expected.

    We rape the islands etc, so only getting what we deserve ... we don't get irony etc etc.

    You didn't suss that the press were being ironic?

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    Disappointed that the NZRU have chosen to go with a Premiership club in a club-run competition.

    It’s been my view that alliances and collaboration should be happening between union run clubs and competitions. This is the NZRU supping with the devil. Hope they’ve brought a long spoon.

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    @catogrande said in Exodus 2018:

    @majorrage said in Exodus 2018:

    The Tew article has been picked up by the Sneering Pommy media brigade the response is as expected.

    We rape the islands etc, so only getting what we deserve ... we don't get irony etc etc.

    You didn't suss that the press were being ironic?

    I don't even know whose being ironic anymore.

    I know it's not s fucking free ride that I've already paid though

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    @pot-hale said in Exodus 2018:

    Disappointed that the NZRU have chosen to go with a Premiership club in a club-run competition.

    It’s been my view that alliances and collaboration should be happening between union run clubs and competitions. This is the NZRU supping with the devil. Hope they’ve brought a long spoon.

    But that idea of the English and French clubs being the Devil really only relates to their relationships with their own unions. For the NZRFU I don’t see that they would see any differential between the clubs and say the provinces.

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    @stargazer

    Simon Manix and Carl Hayman are coaching at Pau. I would love the shit out of that arrangement.

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    replied to Catogrande on last edited by
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    @catogrande said in Exodus 2018:

    @majorrage said in Exodus 2018:

    The Tew article has been picked up by the Sneering Pommy media brigade the response is as expected.

    We rape the islands etc, so only getting what we deserve ... we don't get irony etc etc.

    You didn't suss that the press were being ironic?

    We're Kiwis. We don't get irony.

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