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    @pakman said in ABs v Scotland:

    @crucial Couldn't agree more. Just had breakfast with ABs. More to follow...

    Hope you said hi from me . The lesser mortals here might mock you out of jealousy though . Unfortunately I sensed some envy when I had breakfast with Jerome Kaino, Joe Moody, Damian Mackenzie and Liam Squire.

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    @jegga It must be something about loosies because Ardie looked like he was looking for you.

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    @jegga said in ABs v Scotland:

    @pakman said in ABs v Scotland:

    @crucial Couldn't agree more. Just had breakfast with ABs. More to follow...

    Hope you said hi from me . The lesser mortals here might mock you out of jealousy though . Unfortunately I sensed some envy when I had breakfast with Jerome Kaino, Joe Moody, Damian Mackenzie and Liam Squire.

    you're a cereal stalker 🙂

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    @jegga said in ABs v Scotland:

    @pakman said in ABs v Scotland:

    @crucial Couldn't agree more. Just had breakfast with ABs. More to follow...

    Hope you said hi from me . The lesser mortals here might mock you out of jealousy though . Unfortunately I sensed some envy when I had breakfast with Jerome Kaino, Joe Moody, Damian Mackenzie and Liam Squire.

    That just cost @pakman a lot of money to get you to crawl out of the woodwork.
    Stalkers united.

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    @Crucial This is what they showed on Sky here in NZ:

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    @crucial said in ABs v Scotland:

    @stargazer said in ABs v Scotland:

    @crucial We saw him and his sons come on the field with the match ball, shake hands with both captains, the ref, and BB and hand BB the ball.

    Pretty sad to think he is going to end up like Joost.

    One of my favourite Scots. Bloody good player I the day and apparently one of the best aftermatch speakers ever. Really horrible.

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    @crucial said in ABs v Scotland:

    @jegga said in ABs v Scotland:

    @pakman said in ABs v Scotland:

    @crucial Couldn't agree more. Just had breakfast with ABs. More to follow...

    Hope you said hi from me . The lesser mortals here might mock you out of jealousy though . Unfortunately I sensed some envy when I had breakfast with Jerome Kaino, Joe Moody, Damian Mackenzie and Liam Squire.

    That just cost @pakman a lot of money to get you to crawl out of the woodwork.
    Stalkers united.

    @pakman this is the sort of thing I was talking about, jealousy is so irrational.

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    *"@pakman said in ABs v Scotland:

    @crucial The Fern's traditions must be respected!"*

    Too right mate, they'll still be speaking, in hushed tones, 25 years from now about the day when Jegga had breakfast with Jerome Kaino, Joe Moody, Damian Mackenzie and Liam Squire. I still remember it clearly, as if it were only a season ago.

    By then a respectful period will have passed for some of the detail to be revealed and they'll likely have Jegga do little cameos in local pubs - you know, bring him out to sit at the bar with a blanket over his knees, and yarn about it to the 6 or 7 Saturday night patrons.

    You could talk about it for hours, really, much like discussing when Tony Woodcock came around from the front, took the ball just as the line out split and thundered through the gap from a good - I dunno - 40 30 10 yards out to score that try in 2011.

    I expect it would go something like this:

    Question from the riveted audience: "Breakfast with Jerome Kaino, Joe ...?"
    Jegga: "... Moody, Damian McK ..."
    Q: "You're bloody joking ... fully awesome bru"
    J: "Yeah, nah, nah, yeah"
    Q: "How good was that?"
    J: "Fully awesome bru"
    Q: "Yeah, nah, nah, yeah ... how was Liam Squire, like, you know ..."
    J: "He was a bit quiet."
    Q: "What did he say to you?"
    J: "You can call me Liam, squire."
    Q: "Oh."
    J: "Early on Damian was like, you know, hyperactive. He was fair dinkum popping up everywhere, like Dickie Knee on Hey Hey it's Saturday

    with his eyes sparkling just above the edge of the table, climbing up Jerome's back, peering through Joe's beard - until the restaurateur twigged to his problem. He's brought out a couple of phone books, put 'em on a chair and lifted Damian up to sit with the big fellas. He just played with his food after that, egg all over the shop, spilling his poppa juice, dropping his dummy ..."
    Q: "Jerome ... how was ..."
    J: "He seemed really blissed out, like he had enjoyed a first class root all night long really ..."
    Q: "What did you all have to eat?"
    J: "Well, as a matter of fact they left their docket on the table so I scanned it in 'cos I knew dedicated supporters of the game would need to know. [Jegga to the barman: Switch on that projector now, there's a good man] I'll take you through the entire menu, course by course."

    I imagine they will name it "The day when Jegga had breakfast with Jerome Kaino, Joe Moody, Damian Mackenzie and Liam Squire" Series 2018, 2020, 2022 and so on.

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    @crucial said in ABs v Scotland:

    Having now woken with a head full of expired single malt I will try and add a little to the conversation.

    I had some refs ears things (kindly donated by the gent of scots ancestry next to me) and the Naholo decision was interesting. At first they were heading for a card but on the last replay as the ref was confirming the card decision they seemed to switch to a private channel as the ears went quiet. Then they explained the mitigating circumstances. I suspect that to speed up the decision the TMO said YC is a bit rough on the player considering he was unsighted by a lazy runner.

    The impression I got from the conversation was that the TMO was going to convince the ref it was a red card as he asked the ref "was he sure?" when the ref said he was thinking yellow. But in fact the TMO was actually going in the other direction of a penalty only.

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    @bovidae

    I still don't get the call though. He pushed the Scot out the way and then jumped into the player catching the ball. According to my understanding of the law and interpretation by refs, he's responsible for the result, which was a dangerous fall where the catching player ending up flat on his back and hit his head. It just looks like a standard yellow to me, and I can't see how him pushing another player out of the way contributes to making him less responsible - he was never in a position to compete.

    Edit: Will add video below if I can

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    @gt12 said in ABs v Scotland:

    I still don't get the call though. He pushed the Scot out the way and then jumped into the player catching the ball.

    I'm not sure he jumped. I commend the ref for taking into account the actions of the teammate who deliberately obstructed Naholo. Had Naholo taken the fullback out higher from the ground, then I'd expect the yellow card would still have come. As it was, the Scot fell no worse than being monstered in a tackle.

    At some point refs need to address the materiality of the action and outcome.

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    @antipodean

    OK, rather than jumped perhaps crashed? Either way, he wasn't going to be able to compete, and I don't see why he gets a pass for that.

    I'm happy with the result if that's the way all situations were reffed (player barely off the ground, not really different to a hard tackle) but that's not my understanding of the law or interpretations.

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    @gt12

    On another day with another ref Naholo may have got a YC but the fact that he needed to check his running line to avoid the blocker meant Hogg collided with him as he moved to his left. Naholo never left the ground. I thought it was a common sense decision based on the circumstances.

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  • MN5M Offline
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    @mick-gold-coast-qld said in ABs v Scotland:

    *"@pakman said in ABs v Scotland:

    @crucial The Fern's traditions must be respected!"*

    Too right mate, they'll still be speaking, in hushed tones, 25 years from now about the day when Jegga had breakfast with Jerome Kaino, Joe Moody, Damian Mackenzie and Liam Squire. I still remember it clearly, as if it were only a season ago.

    By then a respectful period will have passed for some of the detail to be revealed and they'll likely have Jegga do little cameos in local pubs - you know, bring him out to sit at the bar with a blanket over his knees, and yarn about it to the 6 or 7 Saturday night patrons.

    You could talk about it for hours, really, much like discussing when Tony Woodcock came around from the front, took the ball just as the line out split and thundered through the gap from a good - I dunno - 40 30 10 yards out to score that try in 2011.

    I expect it would go something like this:

    Question from the riveted audience: "Breakfast with Jerome Kaino, Joe ...?"
    Jegga: "... Moody, Damian McK ..."
    Q: "You're bloody joking ... fully awesome bru"
    J: "Yeah, nah, nah, yeah"
    Q: "How good was that?"
    J: "Fully awesome bru"
    Q: "Yeah, nah, nah, yeah ... how was Liam Squire, like, you know ..."
    J: "He was a bit quiet."
    Q: "What did he say to you?"
    J: "You can call me Liam, squire."
    Q: "Oh."
    J: "Early on Damian was like, you know, hyperactive. He was fair dinkum popping up everywhere, like Dickie Knee on Hey Hey it's Saturday

    with his eyes sparkling just above the edge of the table, climbing up Jerome's back, peering through Joe's beard - until the restaurateur twigged to his problem. He's brought out a couple of phone books, put 'em on a chair and lifted Damian up to sit with the big fellas. He just played with his food after that, egg all over the shop, spilling his poppa juice, dropping his dummy ..."
    Q: "Jerome ... how was ..."
    J: "He seemed really blissed out, like he had enjoyed a first class root all night long really ..."
    Q: "What did you all have to eat?"
    J: "Well, as a matter of fact they left their docket on the table so I scanned it in 'cos I knew dedicated supporters of the game would need to know. [Jegga to the barman: Switch on that projector now, there's a good man] I'll take you through the entire menu, course by course."

    I imagine they will name it "The day when Jegga had breakfast with Jerome Kaino, Joe Moody, Damian Mackenzie and Liam Squire" Series 2018, 2020, 2022 and so on.

    Posts like this prove that some ferners have a lot of extra time on their hands.

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    @gt12 Scottish player should have got done for obstruction. Naholo wasn't able to compete for the ball.

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    @mick-gold-coast-qld Mehrts was there too you know. He’s been in a good paddock judging by the size of him

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  • MN5M Offline
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    @jegga said in ABs v Scotland:

    @mick-gold-coast-qld Mehrts was there too you know. He’s been in a good paddock judging by the size of him

    Loves a drink I hear

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    @bovidae said in ABs v Scotland:

    @gt12

    On another day with another ref Naholo may have got a YC but the fact that he needed to check his running line to avoid the blocker meant Hogg collided with him as he moved to his left. Naholo never left the ground. I thought it was a common sense decision based on the circumstances.

    common sense and consistency in onfield decisions are .... not what I expect any more

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    @gunner said in ABs v Scotland:

    Oh and where were the endless replays and yc for the Scot who deliberately batted the ball out towards the end of the first half?

    So did anyone else notice this, or was I seeing things? Surprised there has been no chat about it on here.

    To me the guy clearly and deliberately batted the ball into touch.

    There wasn't even one replay at the time, so maybe the hometown producer saw it too and didn't want any attention drawn to it?

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    @gunner said in ABs v Scotland:

    @gunner said in ABs v Scotland:

    Oh and where were the endless replays and yc for the Scot who deliberately batted the ball out towards the end of the first half?

    So did anyone else notice this, or was I seeing things? Surprised there has been no chat about it on here.

    To me the guy clearly and deliberately batted the ball into touch.

    There wasn't even one replay at the time, so maybe the hometown producer saw it too and didn't want any attention drawn to it?

    Yes I noticed it and wondered if it would be spotted - but Justin didn't mention it and therefore it didn't happen.

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