ABs v Scotland
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Having now woken with a head full of expired single malt I will try and add a little to the conversation.
I had some refs ears things (kindly donated by the gent of scots ancestry next to me) and the Naholo decision was interesting. At first they were heading for a card but on the last replay as the ref was confirming the card decision they seemed to switch to a private channel as the ears went quiet. Then they explained the mitigating circumstances. I suspect that to speed up the decision the TMO said YC is a bit rough on the player considering he was unsighted by a lazy runner.
Cane's YC was deliberate and cynical. He straight out took one for the team. He was on his feet and jogging off as soon as the whistle went without even listening to the ref. He knew exactly what he did and why. -
@gt12 It's all bit of a repeating theme this year, isn't it? I can't help but thinking that there's something in the coaching that is causing some of the (bad) option taking. Either they've run out of ideas, or they are working on some kind of brilliant scheme making everyone think we're shit, only to show the full - obvioulsy sensationally good - picture come RWC time. Not good for our collective blood pressure.
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BTW, the evening was brilliant and worth the fortune spent. The pre game build up was like a rock concert. Murrayfield itself is a great stadium for watching the game. The locals were excellent value as I expected. Not a single bad comment heard despite them probably feeling a chance had passed them by. Obviously some disagreement with the odd decision but they forgot about it quickly and got on with enjoying the game. A good friendly rugby knowledgeable crowd. Great atmosphere and they were genuinely pleased with the home team performance.
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Yeah, I’m now looking at some of my comments (which I made while watching) and I think I was a bit too harsh on Barrett, who actually worked well with SBW and did some great things (try saving tackle for one), so I should have used others to make my point (although his forward pass to Crotty well fucked me off).
I had another look at Cane’s card and I think it was deserved. At first I thought he’d been pushed over, but he put himself there illegally, and deliberately I think.
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@stargazer said in ABs v Scotland:
@crucial Even on tv, the lighting in the stadium looked impressive. Indeed, rock concert like. Must have been awesome to be there!
Did you get the Doddie Weir walk on on the TV coverage? That was pretty cool.
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@stargazer said in ABs v Scotland:
@crucial We saw him and his sons come on the field with the match ball, shake hands with both captains, the ref, and BB and hand BB the ball.
Pretty sad to think he is going to end up like Joost.
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@crucial Well, without meaning to dis @jegga, my son and I had brekkie in same Hilton buffet as them.
Shook Hames's hand and congratulated him on scrummaging, in particular the great penalty win in front of our sticks. Strong hands, and, whilst under six foot, pretty broad. Crockett wandering around as if not a care in world. Didn't feel like shaking his hand! Read is crocked, limping gingerly down stairs. Doesn't look like he should have played 80. TKB holding court at next table with some Scottish 'pals'. He sounds like he's already turning his thoughts to La Rochelle.
Great night out after game. Scots were gracious losers, and took pride in passion of team.
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@stargazer said in ABs v Scotland:
@antipodean said in ABs v Scotland:
When does Crockett finally retire? I'm sick of that muppet. Cane's YC was because Crockett shoved him over the ruck.
His own yellow was stupid, but Crockett had nothing to do with Cane's YC. I just watched it again and if you want to blame anyone else but Cane for his YC, then it's Liam Squire.
On second viewing Cane came in from the side, Squire drives forward which drives Cane over. But Crockett's holding onto Cane's shorts. So it's his fault.
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Just checked out highlights.
Think my concerns about fade in last 10 need to be moderated. I'm pretty sure second Scottish try wouldn't have been scored if Rieko's shoulder had been fully functional. He was keeping right arm tucked in and was reluctant to go down on ball when grubber put through. Even if he hadn't nabbed possession the momentum would have been slowed. And also obvious he was unwilling to attempt a tackle, presumably because he only had one good arm and it was the wrong side for it. Would usually have been replaced but SBW had been subbed, so no one left on bench.
Think Cane could still have been carded even if he hadn't fallen over, as entry into ruck all wrong.
I haven't looked at the letter of the laws recently, but based on the last time I did ball was out before Crockett nailed halfback and was binned. Notwithstanding that, surely not too much to expect a veteran to know that the ref's rule ball out when half picks it up, and that, given Cane yellow, discretion was the better case of valour. Recall Smith (A) got carded in Dublin for picking up a ball that was more clearly out (except to anyone who's a professional ref).
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@pakman said in ABs v Scotland:
@crucial Couldn't agree more. Just had breakfast with ABs. More to follow...
Hope you said hi from me . The lesser mortals here might mock you out of jealousy though . Unfortunately I sensed some envy when I had breakfast with Jerome Kaino, Joe Moody, Damian Mackenzie and Liam Squire.
