Bledisloe 2
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@NTA said in Bledisloe 2:
The main thing he pointed out was the little decisions that didn't go our way that could have switched momentum. Gave the example of a DHP knock-on that was called versus the Barrett knock-on that wasn't, and could potentially have been a penalty to us with Perenara grabbing the ball after it bounced from an offside position.
Wobs got a penalty 20 seconds later when Hames went in from the side anyways, so doesn't matter.
The problem is, Cheika keeps banging on about how the decisions were unfavorable to the Wallabies, pointing out those 50/50s or maybe wrong decisions that went against them, but he doesn't recognize the two disallowed tries (Ben Smith & Retallick) which might have been given any other day (thought Ben Smith's would have been a try in 90 out of 100 games, and for Retallick, Owens clearly signalled a try with the pointing at the grounding).The point is, you win some, you lose some of these decisions and you just have to roll with it, there is no point in banging on about them, and that's what makes him appear unprofessional. If you always only point out the decisions that went against you, you're delusional and will continue to live in a fantasy world where everything and everyone is against you. It's childish and not befitting of a rugby coach, let alone a tier 1 national team's.
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I don't know what his aim is in highlighting these things - well the one with Hanigan getting tipped is obviously player safety and consistency in foul play laws. Maybe he's trying to put public pressure on referees? I don't know.
Like all of us, do you think he's looking at the penalties that went his way and saying "shit I better draw attention to those because I hated the way that turned out!" ? Nah probably not.
I hear people label his comments as "unprofessional" and based on past form there's a case for saying he's out of line. I'm not sure what "professional" remarks from a coach are supposed to look like - there isn't really a guide book on it besides not bringing the game into disrepute.
Does anyone think Cheika's remarks from the press conference bring the game into disrepute? its on YouTube.
Mostly though it seems to boil down to people saying he's got a bad case of sour grapes. Not going to change that perception until you do the same thing after you win a game, I suppose.
I've just watched the AB presser and its about 4 minutes shorter, and fairly straightforward of course. "We won. Sweet as. Move on."
No questions about broadband, disappointingly.
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As an aside:
@Bovidae said in Bledisloe 2:
@NTA By coincidence I've just watched both press conferences. Certainly Cheika is playing the victim at the start but the rest of his comments are fine. He even cracked some jokes.
I mentioned above that the AB presser is 4 minutes shorter (7 minutes v about 11 for Cheika).
I noted below that the Lions Third Test the visitors PC was about 18 minutes while home side about 12 - so shorter as well. Wonder if there is a pattern there for home v away teams.
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As for the conduct in the coaches box: I believe I've said before that if Shag & Co want to sit there like they've been forced to attend their least favourite cousin's wedding, they're more than welcome.
Cheika may go OTT but that's his business. You may think he looks like a dick doing it, and that's your business.
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I often wondered if the ineptitude that is the ARU appreciates at this stage that any publicity (short of a win) keeps their code in the papers, ergo it's not a bad thing.
I was convinced last year's whinge fest by every Aus rugby pundit was purely a publicity stunt in a landscape losing out to AFL and NRL finals publicity.But mostly it's what Nick suggests. It's just Cheika's way - take it or leave it, he's got more important things to worry about.
At least he got his team to bite this week
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@NTA said in Bledisloe 2:
As for the conduct in the coaches box: I believe I've said before that if Shag & Co want to sit there like they've been forced to attend their least favourite cousin's wedding, they're more than welcome.
Cheika may go OTT but that's his business. You may think he looks like a dick doing it, and that's your business.
At the same time though, his business is Australia's business, isn't it? I've seen plenty of comments from Aussie fans who sick of his victim complex and siege mentality bullshit.
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@Siam said in Bledisloe 2:
@NTA Shag said similar, in that the real difference between the teams was the first 40 when the Wallabies all hadn't played in 4 weeks
As clever as technology and training methods develop there is no substitiute for age-old match conditioning
If only there was a way to organise an in house warmup game in a five week period! Obviously umpossible.
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@Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:
@Siam said in Bledisloe 2:
@NTA Shag said similar, in that the real difference between the teams was the first 40 when the Wallabies all hadn't played in 4 weeks
As clever as technology and training methods develop there is no substitiute for age-old match conditioning
If only there was a way to organise an in house warmup game in a five week period! Obviously umpossible.
Or a game with our Island neighbours. Or Japan.....
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@NTA said in Bledisloe 2:
As for the conduct in the coaches box: I believe I've said before that if Shag & Co want to sit there like they've been forced to attend their least favourite cousin's wedding, they're more than welcome.
Cheika may go OTT but that's his business. You may think he looks like a dick doing it, and that's your business.
I just wonder how effective he can be as a coach when he comes across as the worst sort of rabid one-eyed fan.
I mean I have mates (I know, I know) who act like Chieka does - histrionically questioning every decision as if it was the fifth trumpet of the apocalypse that sounded rather than a refs whistle.
Admire their passion but don't listen to a word they say and occasionally have to simply tell them to shut the fuck up!
That's fine with your drinking buddy - but your coach?
You don't have to sit there sphinx like as Shag does - but I know who comes across more like someone who has an opinion I might actually care to hear
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@Kirwan said in Bledisloe 2:
If only there was a way to organise an in house warmup game in a five week period! Obviously umpossible.
Also a good point - one of the issues being we didn't have available top-flight players, as our Premier club seasons were still running up until the weekend.
EDIT: Naturally, organising games with those clubs who were NOT involved in Premier Club finals could also have been done. And I don't know why we didn't. We showed the last 120 minutes of our Test rugby was superior to the first 40.
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@KiwiMurph I think the game of 3 halves is a good example of making a game for the sake of needing a game, especially for those teams not involved in the finals, and for the Wallabies, surely a probable vs possible type match up would have been the go.
