All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3
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Had it on good authority that some of the Home Nations would love for the Lions Tours to finish.
Minimal remuneration and loss of players to injury the primary reasons.
If we'd gone down 3-0 - which was on the cards prior to and during the tour - then it could have seen the end.
So thanks for playing ball NZ
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@MiketheSnow Yeah, we're good at that stuff. Single handedly gave Mandela a red carpet ride in '95 too
#everycloudsilverlining
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@Catogrande I'm hearing you sound like Jim Broadbent's voice there mate...Hot Fuzz?
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@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
Had it on good authority that some of the Home Nations would love for the Lions Tours to finish.
Minimal remuneration and loss of players to injury the primary reasons.
If we'd gone down 3-0 - which was on the cards prior to and during the tour - then it could have seen the end.
So thanks for playing ball NZ
It is certainly something that really irks me that the NH either decided (or allowed) the SoccerFootball construct of clubs to be the structure in Pro Rugby.
It can only lead to the game being money driven, to owners making decisions based on their club rather than country and to the international game being devalued.
When 'friendlies' become common the international game will die and the RWC will become everything. (I think there are some in higher powers that would actually welcome that scenario) -
@Crucial said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
Had it on good authority that some of the Home Nations would love for the Lions Tours to finish.
Minimal remuneration and loss of players to injury the primary reasons.
If we'd gone down 3-0 - which was on the cards prior to and during the tour - then it could have seen the end.
So thanks for playing ball NZ
It is certainly something that really irks me that the NH either decided (or allowed) the SoccerFootball construct of clubs to be the structure in Pro Rugby.
It can only lead to the game being money driven, to owners making decisions based on their club rather than country and to the international game being devalued.
When 'friendlies' become common the international game will die and the RWC will become everything. (I think there are some in higher powers that would actually welcome that scenario)Unfortunately yes.
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@Crucial said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
Had it on good authority that some of the Home Nations would love for the Lions Tours to finish.
Minimal remuneration and loss of players to injury the primary reasons.
If we'd gone down 3-0 - which was on the cards prior to and during the tour - then it could have seen the end.
So thanks for playing ball NZ
It is certainly something that really irks me that the NH either decided (or allowed) the SoccerFootball construct of clubs to be the structure in Pro Rugby.
It can only lead to the game being money driven, to owners making decisions based on their club rather than country and to the international game being devalued.
When 'friendlies' become common the international game will die and the RWC will become everything. (I think there are some in higher powers that would actually welcome that scenario)It's not really the NH as a whole, just England and France. Now I can't speak for France but the idea that The RFU would actually make a pro-active decision of any magnitude is laughable. In England professionalism was held back for a year to allow for a smoother, land transition. What a complete and utter joke. The RFU did SFA to manage the change and left this extra year as a vacuum for wealthy sugar daddies to finance the clubs and effectively own the player base. Fucked it up from the word go.
there are many aspects of the professional game in England that are laudable but the overall planning is not one of them. It is more a case of constantly putting out fires that we have started ourselves.
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@Siam said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@MiketheSnow Yeah, we're good at that stuff. Single handedly gave Mandela a red carpet ride in '95 too
#everycloudsilverlining
I was at that game. The atmosphere was absolutely ecstatic, so much so it's the only time ever I thought to myself that it wouldn't be the end of the world if the ABs lost, given what it obviously meant to the nation.
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@Catogrande said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Crucial said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
Had it on good authority that some of the Home Nations would love for the Lions Tours to finish.
Minimal remuneration and loss of players to injury the primary reasons.
If we'd gone down 3-0 - which was on the cards prior to and during the tour - then it could have seen the end.
So thanks for playing ball NZ
It is certainly something that really irks me that the NH either decided (or allowed) the SoccerFootball construct of clubs to be the structure in Pro Rugby.
It can only lead to the game being money driven, to owners making decisions based on their club rather than country and to the international game being devalued.
When 'friendlies' become common the international game will die and the RWC will become everything. (I think there are some in higher powers that would actually welcome that scenario)It's not really the NH as a whole, just England and France. Now I can't speak for France but the idea that The RFU would actually make a pro-active decision of any magnitude is laughable. In England professionalism was held back for a year to allow for a smoother, land transition. What a complete and utter joke. The RFU did SFA to manage the change and left this extra year as a vacuum for wealthy sugar daddies to finance the clubs and effectively own the player base. Fucked it up from the word go.
there are many aspects of the professional game in England that are laudable but the overall planning is not one of them. It is more a case of constantly putting out fires that we have started ourselves.
Wales has done an awesome job of fucking it up too
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@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Catogrande said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Crucial said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
Had it on good authority that some of the Home Nations would love for the Lions Tours to finish.
Minimal remuneration and loss of players to injury the primary reasons.
If we'd gone down 3-0 - which was on the cards prior to and during the tour - then it could have seen the end.
So thanks for playing ball NZ
It is certainly something that really irks me that the NH either decided (or allowed) the SoccerFootball construct of clubs to be the structure in Pro Rugby.
It can only lead to the game being money driven, to owners making decisions based on their club rather than country and to the international game being devalued.
When 'friendlies' become common the international game will die and the RWC will become everything. (I think there are some in higher powers that would actually welcome that scenario)It's not really the NH as a whole, just England and France. Now I can't speak for France but the idea that The RFU would actually make a pro-active decision of any magnitude is laughable. In England professionalism was held back for a year to allow for a smoother, land transition. What a complete and utter joke. The RFU did SFA to manage the change and left this extra year as a vacuum for wealthy sugar daddies to finance the clubs and effectively own the player base. Fucked it up from the word go.
there are many aspects of the professional game in England that are laudable but the overall planning is not one of them. It is more a case of constantly putting out fires that we have started ourselves.
Wales has done an awesome job of fucking it up too
True but in a different way. The idea of the regions was IMO, the right way to go but it seems from the outside that it has been handled poorly. Quite how I don't know but money is obviously a problem
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@Catogrande said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Catogrande said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Crucial said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
Had it on good authority that some of the Home Nations would love for the Lions Tours to finish.
Minimal remuneration and loss of players to injury the primary reasons.
If we'd gone down 3-0 - which was on the cards prior to and during the tour - then it could have seen the end.
So thanks for playing ball NZ
It is certainly something that really irks me that the NH either decided (or allowed) the SoccerFootball construct of clubs to be the structure in Pro Rugby.
It can only lead to the game being money driven, to owners making decisions based on their club rather than country and to the international game being devalued.
When 'friendlies' become common the international game will die and the RWC will become everything. (I think there are some in higher powers that would actually welcome that scenario)It's not really the NH as a whole, just England and France. Now I can't speak for France but the idea that The RFU would actually make a pro-active decision of any magnitude is laughable. In England professionalism was held back for a year to allow for a smoother, land transition. What a complete and utter joke. The RFU did SFA to manage the change and left this extra year as a vacuum for wealthy sugar daddies to finance the clubs and effectively own the player base. Fucked it up from the word go.
there are many aspects of the professional game in England that are laudable but the overall planning is not one of them. It is more a case of constantly putting out fires that we have started ourselves.
Wales has done an awesome job of fucking it up too
True but in a different way. The idea of the regions was IMO, the right way to go but it seems from the outside that it has been handled poorly. Quite how I don't know but money is obviously a problem
Regions would have been accepted from the outset if they had been administered and financed by the WRU a la NZ.
They weren't, and then it became tribal warfare.
