All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3
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@MN5 said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@MN5 said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!
Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.
I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.
WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!
Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.
I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.
WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.
Yep 100% serious. Depth was so bad during his era at 13 that Mark Robinson played tests and we shifted Rangi to 13 in 2003. He was there by default and was no great shakes. Not hard to be "up there with the best in the world in his era" given there was Mortlock and then daylight.
That is some serious crap you're spouting there Shark. Tana was bloody superb in the midfield. Pretty much the only times Mortlock really ran wild against the ABs was when Tana wasn't there.
Not at all. AVERAGE. Way down the list when discussing the best All Black centres.
I can't work out if you're on the troll, or if you somehow developed a dislike of him like you did with the Chiefs that makes you lose all sense of objectivity.
Not just down the list, WAY down the list apparently.
Captain for quite awhile too despite being crap. Guess he had us all fooled.
Matt Burke described him as the most intimidating back he played against . Saw it in an interview .
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@MN5 said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@MN5 said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!
Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.
I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.
WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!
Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.
I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.
WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.
Yep 100% serious. Depth was so bad during his era at 13 that Mark Robinson played tests and we shifted Rangi to 13 in 2003. He was there by default and was no great shakes. Not hard to be "up there with the best in the world in his era" given there was Mortlock and then daylight.
That is some serious crap you're spouting there Shark. Tana was bloody superb in the midfield. Pretty much the only times Mortlock really ran wild against the ABs was when Tana wasn't there.
Not at all. AVERAGE. Way down the list when discussing the best All Black centres.
I can't work out if you're on the troll, or if you somehow developed a dislike of him like you did with the Chiefs that makes you lose all sense of objectivity.
Not just down the list, WAY down the list apparently.
Captain for quite awhile too despite being crap. Guess he had us all fooled.
Snakey and Nonu far superior midfielders than Tana. Without any effort of thinking about it, Robertson, Bunce, Iremia, all better also.
Tana was a fantastic winger and I'd have him in my top 3-4 wingers, right up there with Lomu, Rok, Goldie
Tana was captain for two seasons and provided good leadership.
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@MN5 said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@MN5 said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!
Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.
I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.
WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!
Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.
I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.
WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.
Yep 100% serious. Depth was so bad during his era at 13 that Mark Robinson played tests and we shifted Rangi to 13 in 2003. He was there by default and was no great shakes. Not hard to be "up there with the best in the world in his era" given there was Mortlock and then daylight.
That is some serious crap you're spouting there Shark. Tana was bloody superb in the midfield. Pretty much the only times Mortlock really ran wild against the ABs was when Tana wasn't there.
Not at all. AVERAGE. Way down the list when discussing the best All Black centres.
I can't work out if you're on the troll, or if you somehow developed a dislike of him like you did with the Chiefs that makes you lose all sense of objectivity.
Not just down the list, WAY down the list apparently.
Captain for quite awhile too despite being crap. Guess he had us all fooled.
Snakey and Nonu far superior midfielders than Tana. Without any effort of thinking about it, Robertson, Bunce, Iremia, all better also.
Tana was a fantastic winger and I'd have him in my top 3-4 wingers, right up there with Lomu, Rok, Goldie
Tana was captain for two seasons and provided good leadership.
Sheesh, are all you Cantabs on the troll at the moment?
I can handle you personally rating any of those players aside from Ieremia over Tana (even with the midfield widening from centre to include Ma'a) but Tana was easily up with those guys when playing as a centre.
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@akan004 said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@booboo said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
http://www.metservice.com/towns-cities/auckland/auckland-central#!/ten-day
Bloody Auckland. You're as bad as Wellington.
Who to believe? The Norwegians are saying something completely different.
https://www.yr.no/place/New_Zealand/Auckland/Auckland/long.html
Not any more they are not...
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@Crucial said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@MN5 said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@MN5 said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!
Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.
I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.
WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.
@Nepia said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@shark said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Nepia Of all the times someone's had the smart idea of playing a player out of position I'm struggling to think of one which worked. Plenty have been disasters though!
Funny how it's "out of position" when we lose notable tests.
I didn't really rate Tana in the midfield TBH. Serviceable at best, and a default option at a time when we really struggled at centre (pre Conrad). Yet his time there is considered a success.
WTF? Are you serious? He was up with the best in the world in his era as a 13.
Yep 100% serious. Depth was so bad during his era at 13 that Mark Robinson played tests and we shifted Rangi to 13 in 2003. He was there by default and was no great shakes. Not hard to be "up there with the best in the world in his era" given there was Mortlock and then daylight.
That is some serious crap you're spouting there Shark. Tana was bloody superb in the midfield. Pretty much the only times Mortlock really ran wild against the ABs was when Tana wasn't there.
Not at all. AVERAGE. Way down the list when discussing the best All Black centres.
I can't work out if you're on the troll, or if you somehow developed a dislike of him like you did with the Chiefs that makes you lose all sense of objectivity.
Captain for quite awhile too despite being crap. Guess he had us all fooled.
The counter to that comment is Reuben Thorne or Todd Blackadder
Good point ( mainly in Blackadders case, Thorne got selected by four different AB coaches after all ) I guess but he went from being a fantastic winger to being a fantastic centre. That's undeniable.
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http://www.weatherwatch.co.nz/weather-forecasts/auckland
Usually pretty accurate.
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
http://www.weatherwatch.co.nz/weather-forecasts/auckland
Usually pretty accurate.
I'll take 10% chance of rain
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A week is a long time. Let us pray.... seriously though we will be in a totally different headspace this weekend. We played a man down, our talismanic first five had a bad day kicking, they outscored us in tries and we still almost won. We have much room for improvement
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@canefan said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@booboo said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
I am VERY confident for an AB's win this weekend. 20 points at least.
Weirdly I'm not confident.
51-49 in favour of the good guys.
Not used to uncertainty...
They won't score 49 points. The ABs will be angry at being outscored in tries and will consider it a challenge to stop their forwards and protect our line. BSGs prediction may not be that far off
That's my assessment of chances of winning not a score prediction
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@booboo said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@canefan said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@booboo said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
I am VERY confident for an AB's win this weekend. 20 points at least.
Weirdly I'm not confident.
51-49 in favour of the good guys.
Not used to uncertainty...
They won't score 49 points. The ABs will be angry at being outscored in tries and will consider it a challenge to stop their forwards and protect our line. BSGs prediction may not be that far off
That's my assessment of chances of winning not a score prediction
Still generous on their part
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@kev said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
@Stargazer some comments in the media that Laumape was found out on defence...so it could be that they don't see him as starter. Would take a bit of a review to work that out.
That was "analysis" from Will Greenwood.
The media guys are fans just like us. Any influence they think they can exert they will.
He thinks if he can put pressure on Laumape by putting out that kind of bullshit he will, hoping that Laumape reads it and gets in his head that he was "found out" that he believes it.
I was listening this arvo on the web to Devlin talking to Chris Jones who was desparately trying to put the story out there that the ABs are under soooooo much pressure that they'll be hated forever ... jeez it wasn't even subtle.
The media are just as much trying to i nfluence the officials as we are.
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
http://www.weatherwatch.co.nz/weather-forecasts/auckland
Usually pretty accurate.
There were a few forecasts like that earlier today, they have all changed to flat out rain now, I reckon this one will follow.
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@mimic said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:
Who does the forecasts for Emirates Team NZ? Give them a call
Can they make the weather fine?
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it's only Monday and already I'm obsessed with this game.
All the "will they won't they" musings
All the "surely we'll be right" confirmations
All the "Aw jesus a dodgy reffing performance could rob us" anxiety
All the "imagine a 25 point drubbing (or a 3 point loss from a jumping into a tackler penalty)" excitement and angst
Good innit?
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Gee the knee-jerk, sky is falling down carry on from some people after a loss is a thing to behold. Same freaking out occurred during the RWC group games when they didn't put 250 on Namibia.
Christ we were leading by 22 points until the final seconds of the first test. That test was also won after 2 very important players got injured and forced a major backline reshuffle after less than 30min. We lose the 2nd while playing most of the game with a man down and suddenly all these doubts creep in?
Take a farking chill pill. Barring another SBW meltdown there is no reason that we shouldn't win this and win well.
