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    @No-Quarter A fresh faced blonde haired kid comes into the midfield for the decider against the Lions. Seems familiar.

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    @akan004 said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

    @No-Quarter A fresh faced blonde haired kid comes into the midfield for the decider against the Lions. Seems familiar.

    Good old Stainless. Very popular until Hart went for the pre Warrenball approach with Alama the Charmer rather than Stainlesses silky skills, sideways running and flaky defence.

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    @MN5 You mean Mains. Stensness was overlooked in 1994-1995. It was Hart who selected him again in 1997.

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    @Bovidae said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

    Laumape has to be odds on for the 12 jumper, with Fekitoa on the bench. I'm pretty comfortable with that.

    The advantage of that is you have a Barrett-Laumape combo already in place.

    Putting Fekitoa in the 23 ahead of Goodhue** is** an admission they were wrong their original selections.

    "would be"

    He's not picked yet

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    although TBF, Goodhue wasn't named in the original squad was he, only there in the look and learn capacity I thought, and just kept there when Crotty injured himself, but still not 'called into the squad'

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    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

    although TBF, Goodhue wasn't named in the original squad was he, only there in the look and learn capacity I thought, and just kept there when Crotty injured himself, but still not 'called into the squad'

    Although with Crotty's injury we still had sufficient cover with SBW, ALB and Laumape from the original squad.

    Plus a fit Naholo who has covered midfield for the ABs before.

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    @ACT-Crusader ?Not sure what you mean, yes we had cover last week, this week we don't, and as such have called Malakai in, Goodhue still hasn't been called in, so I don't see it as any failure or admission?

    Unless I missed something where he has been elevated into the squad proper?

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    @Bovidae said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

    @MN5 You mean Mains. Stensness was overlooked in 1994-1995. It was Hart who selected him again in 1997.

    Apologies, my mistake. Easy to forget what a good coach Laurie Mains was.

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    @Bovidae Fatal mistake from NZ's worst ever coach and selector.

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    @Tim

    The All Blacks need a coach not a Laurie

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    my take on the Fekitoa situation ,

    they see him as the best candidate at short notice to be thrown straight in the deep end ,

    largely because he has been involved for the last few years , has played in crunch games before and despite his flaws , shouldnt be overawed

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    @MN5 said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

    @akan004 said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

    @No-Quarter A fresh faced blonde haired kid comes into the midfield for the decider against the Lions. Seems familiar.

    Good old Stainless. Very popular until Hart went for the pre Warrenball approach with Alama the Charmer rather than Stainlesses silky skills, sideways running and flaky defence.

    "Swingdoor" Stensness? I'd have Alama over him any day.

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    @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

    my take on the Fekitoa situation ,

    they see him as the best candidate at short notice to be thrown straight in the deep end ,

    largely because he has been involved for the last few years , has played in crunch games before and despite his flaws , shouldnt be overawed

    Agreed with all of this. I think his defensive ability also plays in his favour.

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    @KiwiMurph it's not like bringing in a rookie , it's more like bringing someone back from injury , this is the first squad he has missed for some time .

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    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

    although TBF, Goodhue wasn't named in the original squad was he, only there in the look and learn capacity I thought, and just kept there when Crotty injured himself, but still not 'called into the squad'

    They named a squad for the Lions tour and they named an injury cover list: midfielder Jack Goodhue, hooker Liam Coltman and loose forwards Matt Todd, Vaea Fifita and Akira Ioane. Goodhue was there as injury cover for Ryan Crotty, who was at the time of the team naming not yet 100%. The fact that they didn't use him for the second test after Crotty had pulled his hamstring was because there were already 4 midfielders in the squad.

    Now, with SBW ruled out, there are only 3 remaining midfielders in the squad. So they call in Fekitoa. That can IMO mean a few things.

    • They realise that despite Goodhue's potential (which seems bigger than Fekitoa's), they need experience at this stage, and that's what Fekitoa offers (either as a starter or from the bench).
    • It can also mean that they see Goodhue only (at this stage) as a cover for 13 and not 12. SBW only plays 12 (not 13), so that's what they've looked to replace (either by moving ALB or by starting Laumape or Fekitoa). Fekitoa is better at 13, but he can cover both.
    • Or the injury cover list was just an excuse to bring together a larger squad and Goodhue (and Akira) were indeed (and in the first place) included to "look and learn". I seriously doubt this, because they could also have included these players openly as apprentices, as they have done in the past.
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    @Stargazer Another possible reasoning for bringing in Fekitoa is with only having 3 midfielders they need a 4th in case someone gets crocked during the buildup. In test 1 and 2 they have played 3 midfielders in the 23 so they probably think they need a 4th as cover just case something happens to the 3 other midfielders between now and kickoff.

    For what it's worth I expect to see Fekitoa somewhere in the 23.

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    @Wreck-Diver I believe the difference is I've got both mine open fella, not just one.

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    http://www.metservice.com/towns-cities/auckland/auckland-central#!/ten-day

    Bloody Auckland. You're as bad as Wellington.

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    @booboo said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

    http://www.metservice.com/towns-cities/auckland/auckland-central#!/ten-day

    Bloody Auckland. You're as bad as Wellington.

    Who to believe? The Norwegians are saying something completely different.

    https://www.yr.no/place/New_Zealand/Auckland/Auckland/long.html

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    @akan004 said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

    @booboo said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

    http://www.metservice.com/towns-cities/auckland/auckland-central#!/ten-day

    Bloody Auckland. You're as bad as Wellington.

    Who to believe? The Norwegians are saying something completely different.

    https://www.yr.no/place/New_Zealand/Auckland/Auckland/long.html

    I'm choosing to believe the Norwegians

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