All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1
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I thought this comment stood out for me:
They haven’t worked out (or maybe acknowledged) that the quicker the tempo of the game, the more mistakes — penalties and errors alike — are made. Things are happening at a level outside their comfort zone. This is when the fixable (yet still unfixed) penalties and errors are made.
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Rewatched the first half last night and have to give the props some rare praise. Not only did they do the job in the scrum, their workrate around the paddock was immense.
Fark it was such a statement winning this up front. Wish I wasn't wearing jeans right now.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel A big yes on the props, and that means all of them too. Wyatt Crockett is having the season of his life I reckon.
The highlight of the game for me was Sam W's 20m leg drive in reverse, with bodies piling up in front of him like he had a dozer blade strapped to his arse. Marvellous!
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
I thought this comment stood out for me:
They haven’t worked out (or maybe acknowledged) that the quicker the tempo of the game, the more mistakes — penalties and errors alike — are made. Things are happening at a level outside their comfort zone. This is when the fixable (yet still unfixed) penalties and errors are made.
I think that's been the focus of the All Blacks for a long time now. Fitness for the forwards (especially the tight five) is a big deal, since we make poor decisions when you're tired..
I think the pace of the game is having an impact on the scrums.. harder to push when you're tired and under the pump.
Have a look at Aaron Smith after 14 mins.. he was sweating like he was playing in a day game in Queensland during the summer
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@mimic yeah our team have been the fittest for a number of years now, sure our players off the bench make an impact as well, but plenty just keep going and surely other coaches have realized how much fitter our guys are, or at least appear than everyone else.
Kudos to Nic Gill!
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It's not so much that our players are fitter, it's that they make better decisions when they are tired. They've talked at length about keeping a clear mind when the lungs are burning and the body is aching at the back end of the game. It's all about the top two inches, which I'm sure factors into the equation when players we like at Super level don't get selected for the ABs.
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I also think a huge part of it comes down to how the ABs prepare and train during the week.
The ABs harp on and on about how the weekend is a result of the work done during the week.
I heard Hansen after the game reference the intense training they had on Thursday, which sounded like an opposed session conducted at test intensity.
Therefore as the ABs train at this intensity and aim their whole weak to peak for game day, so when the intensity occurs on gameday - they expect it/can go with it.
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@No-Quarter although being fitter helps with your ability to make better decisions while fatigued, can be the smartest person in the world, but if you aint getting the blood and oxygen round the body to the brain, you will make poor decisions.
@KiwiMurph yeah I think it's smarter training, thnk they alluded to it in the RWC as well where the sessions varied form day to day in intensity, allowing the right amount of time to recover adequately to ensure at peak for game day.
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I think Gatland's just being consistent.
After the near death of BoD and all his family during the last Lions tour, pointing out the dangers of Te'os tackle was important.
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Sumos take on the game
https://www.rugbypass.com/article/difference-blacks-lions-one-word
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@JC quoted Barnes in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
Bet your last Kiwi dollar that New Zealand will be praising the Lions attacking game and luring them towards the rocks.
He might be horrible to listen to, but his analysis here is spot on.
An attacking game is by its nature open and fast, which is the last thing the Lions should do. What they'll be acutely aware of now, is handing over possession by box kicks is a recipe for disaster.
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Now watching a replay. Within 9 minutes, there were three line-outs. The first one close to our try line after Dagg's magnificent try-saving tackle.
Just before the first line-out (AB throw), Peyper tells the Lions to "stop talking" and when they creep closer to the ABs lining up, he just shouts "move" with an arm movement away from the ABs to widen the gap.
Just before the 2nd throw (ABs), he points at one or more Lions players and tells them to "be quiet".
During the 3rd (Lions throw), he warns them there will be sanctions if they keep trying to close the gap with the lined-up ABs.
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@Stargazer said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
Now watching a replay. Within 9 minutes, there were three line-outs. The first one close to our try line after Dagg's magnificent try-saving tackle.
Just before the first line-out (AB throw), Peyper tells the Lions to "stop talking" and when they creep closer to the ABs lining up, he just shouts "move" with an arm movement away from the ABs to widen the gap.
Just before the 2nd throw (ABs), he points at one or more Lions players and tells them to "be quiet".
During the 3rd (Lions throw), he warns them there will be sanctions if they keep trying to close the gap with the lined-up ABs.
Yeah this was my point. He needed to start dishing free kicks. It was tedious.
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Does anyone know whether Kaino's shoulder problem was at the left or right?
One thing I've noticed about our scrums is that when Kaino was still on the field, Kaino was positioned at the right side of the scrum and Cane at the left. After Kaino left the field, Cane moved back to the right side of the scrum, with Ardie on the left.
Is Kaino always pushing at right side of the scrum or is this a possible left-over from his shoulder injury?
Edit: not sure why, but now (54th min), Cane is back at the left side of the scrum with Ardie on the right.
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@Stargazer and yet he did little when either team closed the gap later in the game.
Didnt realise there was a streaker...although it was at the end of the game
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@Stargazer said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
Does anyone know whether Kaino's shoulder problem was at the left or right?
One thing I've noticed about our scrums is that when Kaino was still on the field, Kaino was positioned at the right side of the scrum and Cane at the left. After Kaino left the field, Cane moved back to the right side of the scrum, with Ardie on the left.
Is Kaino always pushing at right side of the scrum or is this a possible left-over from his shoulder injury?
Edit: not sure why, but now (54th min), Cane is back at the left side of the scrum with Ardie on the right.
Errr ... i thought they were open and blindside. Did they stick to a left/right? That's a bit odd.
Unless they were planning a backrow move, or they had identified a defensive pattern to be used against their attacking set up.
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@booboo said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
@Stargazer said in All Blacks vs. B&I Lions test #1:
Does anyone know whether Kaino's shoulder problem was at the left or right?
One thing I've noticed about our scrums is that when Kaino was still on the field, Kaino was positioned at the right side of the scrum and Cane at the left. After Kaino left the field, Cane moved back to the right side of the scrum, with Ardie on the left.
Is Kaino always pushing at right side of the scrum or is this a possible left-over from his shoulder injury?
Edit: not sure why, but now (54th min), Cane is back at the left side of the scrum with Ardie on the right.
Errr ... i thought they were open and blindside. Did they stick to a left/right? That's a bit odd.
Unless they were planning a backrow move, or they had identified a defensive pattern to be used against their attacking set up.
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Yeah, it's open and blindside. We don't have a left or right. However, if we're wrong, then that's good spotting there @Stargazer
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I'd think it more likely what @booboo has suggested in that it was down to a specific pattern (defence) or move (offence) they were doing if they were doing more left/right, with Ardie being quicker or Cane being more Kaino-like in defence.
