2017 School Rugby
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Central North Island (1st XV) results - 10 June:
Te Aute College 32, Lindisfarne College 36
St John’s (Hastings) 3, Wanganui Collegiate 52
Wesley College 38, Rathkeale College 7
St. Peter’s (Cambridge) 21, Francis Douglas MC 38
St Paul’s Collegiate 26, Feilding HS 15 -
@Nepia said in 2017 School Rugby:
@Stockcar86 said in 2017 School Rugby:
PNBHS have had the Polson Banner for the last 3 years. Looks like it might go back to where it belongs when NBHS play them this year
And then Napier should man up and put it on the line against Hastings.
No doubt they'd get it straight back again next year when our two years of glory are over.
Hastings 2nd XV is going pretty well, too:
Hastings BHS 2nd XV (36), Palmerston North BHS 2nd XV (0)Colts lost though:
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I would be really interested to see how many times Lindisfarne has beaten TA. When I was there (early 2000's) pretty sure we hadn't ever beaten them. They happened to be strong when we were strong and when they were weak they were terrible and played 2nd 15 or lower grade. Even mid 2000's they had a couple of guys from NBHS go there just for rugby and created a strong team around that and came 3rd behind NBHSHBHS 1sts that year from memory. -
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My most vivid (watching) rugby memories from school was the agro between NBHS and TA. We really didn't like each other (back in the early-mid 80's). Best moment was when an all in fight had started. Pod Turner had been taken under the grandstand 5 minutes earlier with an injury, but can came running back out to join in. Rugby was different in those days...
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@Nepia said in 2017 School Rugby:
@Rapido said in 2017 School Rugby:
That's really quite sad.
Need to form a Super 1 comp now instead?
Hamilton Boys look like they'll be decent competition.
A Super 2 then. Yay.
The Super 8 has come into being because those big fish provincial schools are too big for their local comps.
Where do we go now?
I realise I'm hating on excellence. But geez, that's worrying. They pumped St Pats as well from the Wellington comp so the answer isn't there.
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@Rapido said in 2017 School Rugby:
@Nepia said in 2017 School Rugby:
@Rapido said in 2017 School Rugby:
That's really quite sad.
Need to form a Super 1 comp now instead?
Hamilton Boys look like they'll be decent competition.
A Super 2 then. Yay.
The Super 8 has come into being because those big fish provincial schools are too big for their local comps.
Where do we go now?
I realise I'm hating on excellence. But geez, that's worrying. They pumped St Pats as well from the Wellington comp so the answer isn't there.
These things happen occasionally, one team in Super 8 will go on a roll and then it will pull back.
Hastings have been posting some pretty crazy scores in the last two years though.
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That Hastings team features eight Year 14s (that's Form 8 under the old terminology) so their success this year should be taken with a grain of salt.
When they played (and smoked) MAGS in pre-season the MAGS coach looked at Hasting's team sheet before the game and remarked that it was an identical team to that which they beat in the National Final the year before.
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Looks like super 8 is falling into a pattern that happens in the Auckland comp.. generally it's about 6-7 schools who have a genuine shot of making the top 4.. rest try to avoid relegation matches..
There's a cycle usually though.. however since the tv broadcasting St Kent's is a regular in playoffs.. they used to be rubbish
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@mimic Yeah St Kents were quite strong in the late 90s and early 00s making a few Auckland finals and winning one (they had the likes of Lavea twins, Rokocoko, Afoas, Kaino) then they really regressed and actually got demoted into the 2nd tier. Then there was a huge focus/$ put into their rugby program and have had some pretty sustained success (and now coached by one of the Lavea twins, whilst the other coaches Kings).
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@Wurzel said in 2017 School Rugby:
That Hastings team features eight Year 14s (that's Form 8 under the old terminology) so their success this year should be taken with a grain of salt.
When they played (and smoked) MAGS in pre-season the MAGS coach looked at Hasting's team sheet before the game and remarked that it was an identical team to that which they beat in the National Final the year before.
It's true that there are several Year 14s in the Hastings BHS squad, however, most of them have all played a year up last year. Only one or two of those Year 14s become 19 this year, all the others are just 17 year-olds turning 18 this year.
I've seen a lot of comments in social media dismissing the success of Hastings as cheating within the rules or playing with players that turn 19 this year, but that's just sour grapes. The fact is that, while they have the advantage of playing in a group that hasn't changed much since last year, they are not playing with a group of players that is older than those of other teams. They also have one or two 16 year olds in the team by the way.
I have also seen accusations of Hastings poaching players from outside the region with scholarships, clearly showing that they know nothing about the school. It's a low decile that can't afford scholarships and almost all off these players are home grown. Before anyone mentions him, Kini Naholo started school in Hastings last year and his school fees etc are paid for by Waisake. I don't know how and why he ended up there (another brother plays in Taranaki), but Waisake moved to NZ to live with their uncle in Wanganui, who wanted him to get a proper education in NZ and his brothers have followed his move.
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@KiwiMurph Yeah.. they put a lot of money into their scholarships..
I think their first xv is the only good team they have.. schools like mags, Auckland grammar, sacred heart and de la salle generally have strong teams coming up the age groups -
@Stargazer Suggesting Hastings poach from outside the region is laughable, Hastings actually loses a bunch of players to scholarships etc every year (Lindersfarne pick off at least one standout most years).
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Results weekend 24-25 June (copied from FB):
Auckland
#1 - Dilworth School 9 v Auckland Grammar 34
#2 - Kelston Boys' High School 11 v De La Salle College 11
#3 - King's College 8 v St Peters 13
#4 - MAGS 19 v Aorere 15
#5 - Tamaki College 5 v St Kent's 36
#6 - Sacred Heart 80 v Liston College 0Rainbows End Counties Manukau and Waikato 1st XV (Premier)
St Johns College 71 Rosehill College 0
Pukekohe HS 11 Manurewa HS 12
Alfriston College 7 Cambridge HS 41
James Cook HS 7 Te Awamutu College 35North Harbour
#1 - Rosmini College 65 v Orewa College 5
#2 - Westlake BHS 78 v Whangarei BHS 0
#3 - Massey HS 3 v Takapuna GS 21
#4 - Birkenhead 10 v Rangitoto 31Central NI
Wesley 60 v Te Aute 0
St Paul's Collegiate 59 v Rathkeale 7
St Peter's 43 v St John's 7
Francis Douglas 28 v Lindisfarne 10
Feilding HS 22 v Wanganui Collegiate 0Super 8
Palmerston North BHS 19 v New Plymouth BHS 12 (Wednesday)
Hastings BHS 70 v Gisborne BHS 0
Tauranga BC 34 v Napier BHS 26
Hamilton BHS 34 v Rotorua BHS 7Wellington
#1 - Porirua College 31 v Wairarapa College 24
#2 - Tawa College 0 v Silverstream 57
#3 - Rongotai 43 v HVHS 0
#4 - St. Pat's Town 46 v Kapiti College 0
#5 - Well College 13 v Scots 14UC Championship
#1 - Christchurch BHS 13 v Nelson College 11
#2 - Roncalli College 7 v Shirley Boys' High School 47
#3 - Marlborough BC 7 v Timaru Boys' High School 22
#4 - Burnside High School 12 v Christ's College 43
#5 - Waimea Combined 22 v Lincoln High School 20
#6 - Rangiora High School 21 v St Bede's 7
#7 - St Andrew's College 57 v Ashburton College 15Otago
King's HS 34 v South Otago 17
Otago BHS (2) 22 v Waitaki BHS 0
Dunstan 43 v St Kevin's 25
Taieri 52 v Kavanagh 25 -
The Auckland comp very tight as usual. Lack of bonus points could cost St Peters despite having most wins so far.
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St Bede's losing to Goon is a shocker.
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@shark said in 2017 School Rugby:
St Bede's losing to Goon is a shocker.
not a great season for Bedes, they also lost to St Thomas a couple of weeks back.
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@African-Monkey said in 2017 School Rugby:
The Auckland comp very tight as usual. Lack of bonus points could cost St Peters despite having most wins so far.
Yup, St Peter's and De La Salle suffering with the lack of bonus points.
St Peter's defence is amazing though.. Still surprised that they lost to Grammar..MAGS and De La Salle are suffering with injuries (each with 5+ players out) though.. The holidays can't come quick enough for them
