Argentina v England (1st test)
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Most enjoyable match I've seen in ages. Youngsters all went well, very well. Of the "older" players, Ford played the best I've seen him in ages, Slade had a good game, and Yarde. Against that, Brown looked as unlikely to pass as ever, and Hartley was the weak point in two promising England attacks in the second half, getting thrown back like a ragdoll to end one multiphase movement, and spilling the ball in contact to end another. Argentina's handling and offloading was top drawer for large chunks of the game, but their pack didn't consistently dominate as anticipated, despite it being, literally, men against boys on occasion. Speaking of boys, 18 yr old Tom Curry, take a bow. Another great performance to back up his showing against the Baabaas. The lad shows real potential.
Eddie's got a fun couple of years ahead.
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@MiketheSnow said in Argentina v England (1st test):
If you wanted to show a newbie what rugby is all about then this match is it.
Not something one would expect from a match between England and Argentina, unless it was to show newbies how to scrum.
I'll have to look out for a replay on the rugby channel and record it to watch it later.
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@Disgusted-of-TW said in Argentina v England (1st test):
Most enjoyable match I've seen in ages. Youngsters all went well, very well. Of the "older" players, Ford played the best I've seen him in ages, Slade had a good game, and Yarde. Against that, Brown looked as unlikely to pass as ever, and Hartley was the weak point in two promising England attacks in the second half, getting thrown back like a ragdoll to end one multiphase movement, and spilling the ball in contact to end another. Argentina's handling and offloading was top drawer for large chunks of the game, but their pack didn't consistently dominate as anticipated, despite it being, literally, men against boys on occasion. Speaking of boys, 18 yr old Tom Curry, take a bow. Another great performance to back up his showing against the Baabaas. The lad shows real potential.
Eddie's got a fun couple of years ahead.
Definitely. Skills, strength and street smarts way beyond his years.
I look at Eddie Jones and can't help but be reminded of Ted when he went back to NZ.
He has a style of play and an ethos that he's worked at over the years, a lot of the time with success other times with failure, and now he has the cattle.
A massive herd.
Onwards and upwards for England regardless of the score next weekend.
Thought it was very telling that England as a whole were disappointed with this performance
What did the boss make of it?
England head coach Eddie Jones: "It's a great result, but I am disappointed with the performance - we gave away too many points.
"But we have shown a tonne of team ethic. We had 10 young guys who came into a situation where we were chasing the game. They were fantastic. The young guys made mistakes but they did not dwell on them. Take Denny [Solomona], he made two horrific defensive mistakes but then scored a fantastic try."
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@nzzp said in Argentina v England (1st test):
@MiketheSnow said in Argentina v England (1st test):
George Ford. Legendary post match interview
any link?
Can't see any on youtube.
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Here's a link, everything but the first Argentina try.
Watching this again, it was admittedly all a bit loose at times, but some of the skills on show were pretty slick. e.g.Slade's dummy and kick ahead for May to score in the corner; the Arg fullback's score to take them back in front at 29-23; Ford and Francis combining beautifully to score on a counter from a turnover soon after; the lead up to Solomona's try.c.f
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I realise England are in the fortunate position of having some quality depth now, but how did Argentina manage to lose to that development squad?
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@antipodean said in Argentina v England (1st test):
I realise England are in the fortunate position of having some quality depth now, but how did Argentina manage to lose to that development squad?
I actually think that England went out there with a fair bit of hope. The spine of the team - 2, 8, 9, 10 and 15 were all seasoned internationals, Genge, Ewels, May, Slade and Yarde have all spent plenty of time in the wider England training squad. Much has been made of the lack of experience but in reality it is only Williams and Curry that were out and out bolters from the starting XV.
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It was a pearl of a Test match, and also produced possibly the most beautiful scrum of all time.
Forwards, tissues at the ready:
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@SimonAdd_2 said in Argentina v England (1st test):
It was a pearl of a Test match, and also produced possibly the most beautiful scrum of all time.
Forwards, tissues at the ready:
a similar thing happened last year in the NZ vs Aus tests - from memory the ref called for a reset and then allowed the Aussie halfback to throw the ball under the number eights foot.
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@Catogrande said in Argentina v England (1st test):
@antipodean said in Argentina v England (1st test):
I realise England are in the fortunate position of having some quality depth now, but how did Argentina manage to lose to that development squad?
I actually think that England went out there with a fair bit of hope. The spine of the team - 2, 8, 9, 10 and 15 were all seasoned internationals, Genge, Ewels, May, Slade and Yarde have all spent plenty of time in the wider England training squad. Much has been made of the lack of experience but in reality it is only Williams and Curry that were out and out bolters from the starting XV.
You'd probably also call Wilson a bolter from the starting 15. Been around the block a few times and consistently good for Newcastle, but hasn't had a sniff of a call up before this tour.
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@Margin_Walker said in Argentina v England (1st test):
@Catogrande said in Argentina v England (1st test):
@antipodean said in Argentina v England (1st test):
I realise England are in the fortunate position of having some quality depth now, but how did Argentina manage to lose to that development squad?
I actually think that England went out there with a fair bit of hope. The spine of the team - 2, 8, 9, 10 and 15 were all seasoned internationals, Genge, Ewels, May, Slade and Yarde have all spent plenty of time in the wider England training squad. Much has been made of the lack of experience but in reality it is only Williams and Curry that were out and out bolters from the starting XV.
You'd probably also call Wilson a bolter from the starting 15. Been around the block a few times and consistently good for Newcastle, but hasn't had a sniff of a call up before this tour.
Has he not been part of Eddie's training squads for over a year now but always getting crocked at the wrong time?
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Sorry, missed this before. Can't find any record of him being called up before this summer by EJ, but may be wrong
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good game eh? just caught a replay. best i've seen ford play, admittedly out of a small sample, and the young pommy forwards held their own nicely. pumas had a few decent opportunities to seal it towards the end, but they remain the new france - bits of great footy but too many mistakes - and after they took sanchez off they really struggled for direction. hernandez is not what he once was, and landajo was pretty average all game with sanchez dealing very well with some dodgy service.
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@Margin_Walker said in Argentina v England (1st test):
Sorry, missed this before. Can't find any record of him being called up before this summer by EJ, but may be wrong
Nope my mistake. He was called up to an England training squad but got crocked, so probably didn't attend.
