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How are the AB's tracking heading into the BIL series?

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    @pakman Yep, last question of the press conference.

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    @Nepia Not much point in picking Ngatai and Proctor as injury cover when they've been out with head injuries for the whole season.

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    @Nepia said in How are the AB's tracking heading into the BIL series?:

    Ok, I must say I'm surprised with the inclusion of Goodhue (back up squad) and J Barrett. J Barrett started this season well but seemed to lose a bit of form as the season progressed. Goodhue, I must admit I haven't watched much of him but he's been good when I have seen him, but interesting that he appears to have leap frogged over guys like Ngatai, Proctor and Buckman.

    To be fair, Proctor and Ngatai have barely played in recent times. Interesting that Goodhue's also jumped over Fekitoa, Tamanivalu and Moala - last year's ABs who have been playing.

    He has been excellent though. Has barely made a mistake all season and good in every game.

    If he stays fit, I reckon Ngatai has the goods to return to the ABs, but I think most of the others will struggle to get much of a look in for the meantime - maybe Proctor?

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    @Chris-B. Thompson.

    @Nepia I think I can see where they're going with J Barrett. Reads the game very well and has some nice skills, along with a very promising boot. I reckon they've got him there to focus on his shortcomings, mainly - speed, inconsistent passing, defence. Doubt he'll see much gametime.

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    @Tim Missed that on AllBlacks.com feed. Where were you watching it?

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    @KiwiMurph Forgive me for this, but I can't help but feel selectors may see spare loosies selected in Samoa as cannon fodder.

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    Ofa T should be nowhere near an All Black squad. He was also poor against the Lions the other night.
    If you are looking for guys who play both sides then Atu Moli would be a better investment .
    I would rate Eves , May, Fisihoi and Prattley (all average props) over him

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    @Kiwidom he was? In what areas?

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    @mariner4life Missed tackles, general scrimmaging and the miles offside tackle on Biggar.

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    @Kiwidom said in How are the AB's tracking heading into the BIL series?:

    @mariner4life Missed tackles, general scrimmaging and the miles offside tackle on Biggar.

    I thought that was fine given the ref clearly didn't give a shit about foul play. He also ran 10m before he snotted Biggar, Would have helped if his teammates ran another two metres to put him onside.

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    Ofa T may be a placeholder but he's performed well so far in every outing in a black jersey (including scrums). Saying Prattley is better than him (who isnt even up to Super Rugby standard) is just plain ridiculous.

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    @KiwiMurph Agreed Prattley was a bad example, but Nepo Laulala could have been picked instead , with Faumuina as both TH and LH cover

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    @Kiwidom my memory of Nepo Laulala in a black jersey involves him over-celebrating a scrum win vs Samoa in Apia and then missing a goal line tackle on the Wallaby try scorer for the match sealing try for the last Bledisloe the ABs lost, 2015 Sydney.

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    @KiwiMurph You forgetting his dominant cameo against the strong Argentina scrum in Chritchurch of that same year then ? I just think he has a lot more potential than Ofa, and they are around the same age

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    @Kiwidom That's fair. I think Ofa's best bet is to go full time tighthead next year with Faumuina leaving the Blues.

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    Ofa's alright. No matter how well he's going he'll always struggle to shake off the bad reputation he has with his scrummaging which has barely been a problem in the last couple of seasons.

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    What missed tackles? One might say that this critic is full of shit.

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    Ofa is a big strong unit. His size and strength is a good advantage at lineout time. He's good around the park and has some work ons at scrum time. I don't see why people are surprised given he was in the environment most of last year and is clearly a work in progress.

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    I am a huge fan of Luatua but some here and around the traps are carrying on as though his form was undeniable.

    The spot they were picking for is a non playing reserve for an established loose trio and Ardie. There is no chance of competition to make it to match day. So it changes the equation a little.

    Hansen is too canny to say this, but injury permitting whoever was picked maybe gets a look in for the third test if it's a dead rubber and Kaino and Read are better rested.

    No point carrying a guy for three weeks when if all goes to plan he is going to get 60 minutes in the last game and then leave. Spend those resources wisely on building for the future.

    Certainly not vindictive, if a clear selection was heading overseas they would be picked. That said it doesn't hurt to remind fringe players once in a while that they might want to think twice about leaving.

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    @rotated Whilst I have a lot of sympathy for your view, the fact remains that Squire and Read are a non-negligible risk. If sod's law struck and both were to miss first two Lions tests I'd want my top man in reserve. For me, Luatua is it. If Read passed fully fit by all means release him. Nothing to stop Akira being apprentice or whatever they wish to call him.

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