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How are the AB's tracking heading into the BIL series?

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    @Billy-Tell said in How are the AB's tracking heading into the BIL series?:

    @Crucial said in How are the AB's tracking heading into the BIL series?:

    @Billy-Tell said in How are the AB's tracking heading into the BIL series?:

    And Taine Ran-dell.

    It Randle!

    I know! I'm mocking the Chanel 9 commentators...Ran-dell...High-LAND-ers.

    Oh in that case I see your channel nine and raise you SkySports UK...

    Sah-vay-ah!

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    @Tim said in How are the AB's tracking heading into the BIL series?:

    Whatever happened to McGaw?

    Same thing that happened to Ritchie

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    @Crucial said in How are the AB's tracking heading into the BIL series?:

    @Billy-Tell said in How are the AB's tracking heading into the BIL series?:

    @Crucial said in How are the AB's tracking heading into the BIL series?:

    @Billy-Tell said in How are the AB's tracking heading into the BIL series?:

    And Taine Ran-dell.

    It Randle!

    I know! I'm mocking the Chanel 9 commentators...Ran-dell...High-LAND-ers.

    Oh in that case I see your channel nine and raise you SkySports UK...

    Sah-vay-ah!

    Isn't that just Nisbett as well?

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    wrote on last edited by Duluth
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    www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11857140

    Good stuff from Shag

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    http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/opinion/92917533/lions-tour-paul-cullys-all-blacks-squad-to-face-the-british-and-irish-lions

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    @pakman I thought Cully wasn't far away - I think DMac might make it at the expense of one of the loosies - probably Luatua injuries permitting.

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    @Chris-B.

    I'm not sure that Barrett has done enough to keep out Pat T.

    I wouldn't be surprised to see one of Todd or Ardie to miss out and carry an extra 6/8.

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    Yeah, three opensides seems excessive.

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    @Tim said in How are the AB's tracking heading into the BIL series?:

    Yeah, three opensides seems excessive.

    Although Ardie and Cane have been used quite a lot in other back row positions recently, may be seen as providing the cover needed.

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    @gt12 Nor me. I'm not sure Scott Barrett is quite tall enough to be an international lock.

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    @Chris-B. said in How are the AB's tracking heading into the BIL series?:

    @gt12 Nor me. I'm not sure Scott Barrett is quite tall enough to be an international lock.

    Neither was Brad Thorn

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    For those that can't/won't click on the stuff link, here is Cully's squad of 33:

    Forwards (19): Dane Coles (Hurricanes), Codie Taylor (Crusaders), Nathan Harris (Chiefs); Owen Franks (Crusaders), Charlie Faumuina (Blues), Joe Moody (Crusaders), Wyatt Crockett (Crusaders), Ofa Tu'ungafasi (Blues); Brodie Retallick (Chiefs), Sam Whitelock (Crusaders), Luke Romano (Crusaders), Scott Barrett (Crusaders); Kieran Read (Crusaders, captain), Liam Squire (Highlanders), Jerome Kaino (Blues), Steven Luatua (Blues), Sam Cane (Chiefs), Ardie Savea (Hurricanes), Matt Todd (Crusaders)

    Backs (14): Aaron Smith (Highlanders), TJ Perenara (Hurricanes), Tawera Kerr-Barlow (Chiefs); Beauden Barrett (Hurricanes), Aaron Cruden (Chiefs), Lima Sopoaga (Highlanders); Ryan Crotty (Crusaders), Sonny Bill Williams (Blues), Anton Lienert-Brown (Chiefs), Malakai Fekitoa (Highlanders); Israel Dagg (Crusaders), Julian Savea (Hurricanes), Waisake Naholo (Highlanders), Ben Smith (Highlanders).

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    @ACT-Crusader Can't really disagree with any of that and I'd be surprised if that is off the mark.

    Is it weird that a little bit of me wants a bolter in there purely to mix it up a bit and maybe provide a bit of a surprise to the Lions? I'm thinking Laumape or maybe McKenzie. Its a shame Giraffe isn't quite there yet.

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    @gt12 said in How are the AB's tracking heading into the BIL series?:

    @Chris-B.

    I'm not sure that Barrett has done enough to keep out Pat T.

    I wouldn't be surprised to see one of Todd or Ardie to miss out and carry an extra 6/8.

    What has Pat T done this season?? If he makes the squad it'll be on potential alone.

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    Not too much to debate, but I don't think they'll pick Luatua, so with that in mind, I think they will take three 7s. Accordingly, I think I'd go 19/14 and carry an extra loosie (such as an all rounder like Elliot or Messam ahead of Luatua - who is playing better, but I don't see him getting picked).

    Forwards (19):

    Dane Coles (Hurricanes), Codie Taylor (Crusaders), Nathan Harris (Chiefs) with Coltman and Parsons on standby
    Owen Franks (Crusaders), Charlie Faumuina (Blues), Joe Moody (Crusaders), Wyatt Crockett (Crusaders), Ofa Tu'ungafasi (Blues) with Hames and Laulala on standby
    Brodie Retallick (Chiefs), Sam Whitelock (Crusaders), Luke Romano (Crusaders), Pat T (Blues), with Barrett and Bird on standby
    Kieran Read (Crusaders, captain), Liam Squire (Highlanders), Jerome Kaino (Blues), Elliot Dixon (Highlanders), Ardie Savea (Hurricanes), Sam Cane (Chiefs), Matt Todd (Crusaders) with Luatua or Messam ready depending on who is still a bit sick, with Seu, Fifita, Shields, Taufua, and Gibson also on standby

    Backs (14 - 15):

    Aaron Smith (Highlanders), TJ Perenara (Hurricanes), Tawera Kerr-Barlow (Chiefs) with Pulu on standby
    Beauden Barrett (Hurricanes), Aaron Cruden (Chiefs), Lima Sopoaga (Highlanders) with Mo'unga, Mackenzie and Beaver on standby 🙂
    Ryan Crotty (Crusaders), Sonny Bill Williams (Blues), Anton Lienert-Brown (Chiefs), Malakai Fekitoa (Highlanders) with half the world on standby - Moala, Taimanivalu, Laumape, Proctor, Barracuda, Goodhue, Aso, J. Barrett, Beaver 🙂
    Israel Dagg (Crusaders), Julian Savea (Hurricanes), Waisake Naholo (Highlanders), Ben Smith (Highlanders) with Mackenzie, Ioane, Duffie, J. Barrett, and Nanai on standby

    Injured: NMS

    I'm not super happy about the form of Fekitoa (although he's been better lately), and there are a bunch of guys coming back from injury....
    Luatua is playing well and I'd take him, but I've tried to pick the team they'll select here.
    I'd love to see Messam get one last series, but he might be in Rodders land now, though.

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  • gt12G Offline
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    @Billy-Tell

    That's a good point.

    See also: Coles, Harris, Read, Sopoaga, SBW, Fekitoa, J. Savea, and Dagg

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    @gt12 Grant Fox has already said an 18/15 split with 3 hookers, 3 halfbacks and 3 10s

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    @ACT-Crusader Odd, because driving home last night (I live in London), I was musing that the selectors see Crotty very much as a 12 (they picked Nonu and SBW as 12s in RWC, leaving Crotty at home). I see he and SBW as certs for 12. Then we need at least one specialist 13, and on reflection Fekitoa fits that bill, even though like others I fret when I see his 'headless chicken' look in attack. Switched on PC and saw article.
    For me it is close. As commented on, Foxy has indicated 18/15, so one less forward and one more back.
    On balance I'd add Ioane to backs and Todd unluckily out, but will attend squad training.

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    JK seemed pretty confident that R. Ioane would make it.

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    Yeah Ioane hasn't been all that blockbusting this season, but I'd prefer him on the right wing paired with Naholo/Savea than Naholo on the right paired with Savea (if NMS is out).

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