How are the AB's tracking heading into the BIL series?
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I think the alternative will be the guy that's played and kicked for 40 odd tests when DC was injured - Cruden. If BB's kicking is really costing us then Cruds will come on, BB to 15 and B Smith to 14. I doubt they're losing too much sleep over it.
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Cruden also has concussion symptoms.
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Weekly injury update (also updated the OP)
UPDATE 7/5/17
How are we going with injuries?
NMS - out, but could be back for the Maori game I read
Squire - annnnd, out for 4-6 weeks (busted thumb)
Coles - dicky calves 50/50 for 'Canes v Stormers, now with added Concussion, return TBC
Kaino - successful surgery, back in for 3-5 weeks (back for the Samoa test)
Dagg - might be back for Hurricanes game
Ben Smith - out for 1-2 weeks, Ankle Sprain
Read - out for 5 weeks, broken thumb (back in time for Samoa test)
Cruden - out with concussion, Chiefs v Reds.
SBW - possible concussion, Blues v WaratahsNaholo - back and scoring tries
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@westcoastie said in How are the AB's tracking heading into the BIL series?:
Read - out for 5 weeks, broken sprain (back in time for Samoa test)
Thanks for the list!
This is the one I am most worried about, a broken sprain, sounds pretty serious..is that like 4*4 weeks out? -
We're doomed. Dooooommmmed!
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@taniwharugby aha, the Dread Pirate Roberts tactic, they're all actually kicking with their wrong foot.
I reckon Sam Whitelock is using his 2 weeks to learn how it's done.
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@mariner4life said in How are the AB's tracking heading into the BIL series?:
We're doomed. Dooooommmmed!
Injury lists pffftttt, we've still got Canerbreeeeee / Sader players plus a few tokens fit and firing
1 Moody
2 Taylor
3 Franks
4 S Whitelock
5 Romano
6 S Barrett
7 Todd
8 L Whitelock
9 A Smith
10 B Barrett
11 Savea
12 Crotty
13 Lienert-Brown
14 Tamanivalu
15 J Barrett -
Our training strip for 2017...
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I think they'll just get B Barrett to kick. It's what they did last year and I can't imagine his kicking being much worse than usual.
I hope they don't select J Barrett; he's just not ready in my opinion. He's a great player with an exciting future, but he's not an All Black level full back yet... not unless both Smith and Dagg are injured. I don't get this talk about his utility value either. In the future, sure, but as of now he can't have played more than one or two games in the midfield at Super Rugby level? Personally, I hope the selectors take their time with him.
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@Milk said in How are the AB's tracking heading into the BIL series?:
I think they'll just get B Barrett to kick. It's what they did last year and I can't imagine his kicking being much worse than usual.
I hope they don't select J Barrett; he's just not ready in my opinion. He's a great player with an exciting future, but he's not an All Black level full back yet... not unless both Smith and Dagg are injured. I don't get this talk about his utility value either. In the future, sure, but as of now he can't have played more than one or two games in the midfield at Super Rugby level? Personally, I hope the selectors take their time with him.
Agree with all of that. If they want utility value then it makes more sense to put DMac on the bench. But I think they will be conservative at the start and have Cruden on the pine. What would be ideal is another Kahui type that can cover midfield and wing.
I don't think Tamanivalu is that guy either. An in form SBW works at a pinch. -
Not sure where to stick this...but Jason Woodward as a Pom (!)
New Zealand-born Jason Woodward included in England training squad
Eddie Jones has called up 20 players, including New Zealand-born Jason Woodward, for a strength and conditioning camp at Teddington
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Taimanivalu is another who plays centre and wing, although not as good as Kahui at either I suspect....
The guys on RS mentioned Jack Goodhues name, this is a kid with a big future, seems to have a great rugby brain, all the attributes, but Lions looking a year or 2 early for him, although he may get the Jordie project spot for the EOYT this year...?
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If you have all of Bender, B Barrett and Dagg in the starting lineup (like last year), you don't need a guy on the bench that plays wing/fullback.
A 1st 5 plus a midfielder will do the trick.
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@ACT-Crusader look at that pedestrian back row.
And no way your latest poach gets in ahead of an outside back from Auckland.
Must try harder.
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@ACT-Crusader said in How are the AB's tracking heading into the BIL series?:
If you have all of Bender, B Barrett and Dagg in the starting lineup (like last year), you don't need a guy on the bench that plays wing/fullback.
A 1st 5 plus a midfielder will do the trick.
add in that i don't think DMac is, or will ever be, a decent test player. What makes him a great Super player (at times) doesn't usually translate to test rugby.
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@Milk said in How are the AB's tracking heading into the BIL series?:
I think they'll just get B Barrett to kick. It's what they did last year and I can't imagine his kicking being much worse than usual.
I think they will too.
The problem with putting a reserve kicker on the bench is that by the time you realise you need him, the kicks have been missed and the points lost - refer Piri in the RWC final.
Other interesting point from the Fox interview was him mentioning just five props.
So I guess you pick the obvious best four and then Tu'ungafasi as the fifth - mainly covering the possibility that one of your main four pulls up lame in the final warm-up. If one of them gets injured earlier in the week then maybe a Hames or a Laulala gets called in (depending on whether they think Nepo is a better tighthead than Ofa).
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@Chris-B. we won that game, so him missing matters not
