Highlanders vs. Blues
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@Bones said in Highlanders vs. Blues:
Has he actually said it's religion based?
Stuff.co.nz believe it's religious based.
I'd bet my children's lives on the accuracy, integrity and proof reading of every single report I've ever read from them so that's good enough for me.
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@Rocky-Rockbottom It wouldn't be religion if there wasn't an element of hypocrisy and cherry picking...
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@MN5 Yeah good point.
I did have a laugh when I was saw the video on stuff that showed a clip from the game - I never noticed the tape and now I realise it was because it was pretty much the same colour as his skin. So black tape would've been a better option?
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@Stargazer said in Highlanders vs. Blues:
I think you have to know him personally, like his team mates, to know what he's really like. I certainly won't form opinions about him by reading opinionated articles from journos. Just as I don't follow the fanboy hype around him, I won't let jealous/anti-religious/Islamophobic grudges influence me. Above all, I don't really care what he does or not, as long as he plays well when/if he gets to wear a black jersey again.
Haha, you call someone out on the hypocrisy of his actions and that hanging out with people that despise homosexuals reflects badly on him and suddenly made up words like Islamophobic come out.
I'm pretty comfortable forming an opinion of him based on those two things alone, let alone everything else that comes with brand SBW.
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@Bones said in Highlanders vs. Blues:
@MN5 Yeah good point.
I did have a laugh when I was saw the video on stuff that showed a clip from the game - I never noticed the tape and now I realise it was because it was pretty much the same colour as his skin. So black tape would've been a better option?
Dude don't bring race into this.
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@Stargazer Good post with well thought out argument - I don't agree with it, but your points are clear and succinct.
I do think it's naive though to think that this was done the way it was without intending it to cause the shitstorm it did. It could have been dealt with through the right channels very early on, instead of surprising everybody turning up on the day with them covered.
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@No-Quarter Lima Sopoaga has to make a public apology for calling team mates gay on twitter and SBW gets a pass for hanging out with a guy who says homosexuals are worse than animals?
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@No-Quarter said in Highlanders vs. Blues:
@Stargazer said in Highlanders vs. Blues:
I think you have to know him personally, like his team mates, to know what he's really like. I certainly won't form opinions about him by reading opinionated articles from journos. Just as I don't follow the fanboy hype around him, I won't let jealous/anti-religious/Islamophobic grudges influence me. Above all, I don't really care what he does or not, as long as he plays well when/if he gets to wear a black jersey again.
Haha, you call someone out on the hypocrisy of his actions and that hanging out with people that despise homosexuals reflects badly on him and suddenly made up words like Islamophobic come out.
I'm pretty comfortable forming an opinion of him based on those two things alone, let alone everything else that comes with brand SBW.
He's mates with Quade Cooper. That's another black mark.
However he also gave 100 grand to Christchurch for the earthquake appeal. He's well off but he's not Tiger Woods or David Beckham....kudos for him for that.
My main issue as it has always been has been the massive attention given to his every move relative to his talent....
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@MN5 ironic that a count-back would more than likely show you as having the most posts on the guy
Rrrrrrraaaaiiiiinnn
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there is a right way, a wrong way and an SBW way...is funny, this is the most @mn5 has posted on a rugby thread in years!
Am sure we will get some 'sound' reasoning as to why he did it this way, however I dont think it will be the full story...he's been a Muslim for 8 years, so surely it isnt something he has just realised, maybe he has just had someone point it out to him?
BUt as has been highlighted numerous time, the shear number of times BNZ has been mentioned in social media and mainstream media, it is almost as if it was some kind of covert publicility stunt, cos man they been getting some coverage
Or maybe the explanation is simple...if you look carefully, is that SBW at the end of the queue?
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@mariner4life said in Highlanders vs. Blues:
@MN5 ironic that a count-back would more than likely show you as having the most posts on the guy
Rrrrrrraaaaiiiiinnn
@Hooroo and others are more full of hate though.
....and yours are definitely the gayest.
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@MajorRage said in Highlanders vs. Blues:
Does anybody hate him? I don't think so , I know that I don't.
I just don't really care for the baggage that goes with him - of which not all his fault.
I love watching him play rugby, the sideshow that comes with him is very boring.
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Yeah I'm a huge fan of how he plays. No matter what @MN5 says, the guy has put in and been a real asset to the AB squad. I personally don't think he did this to cause a stir. I saw it during the game and didn't even think a second thought. I was just hoping he'd wouldn't play well so the Landers would win.
I've seen other Super rugby players put tape on logos whether it's on compression gear or headgear. Those appear to be for financial and/or contractual purposes. This appears to be the same given its a contractual reason that has allowed him to tape over a sponsor.
It's neither here nor there for me. Bring on next week.
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@MajorRage said in Highlanders vs. Blues:
@Stargazer Good post with well thought out argument - I don't agree with it, but your points are clear and succinct.
That is totally unacceptable. The fern did not get to where it is today with that sort of reasoned response
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Perhaps SBW could get an alternative sponsor to NIB for example and donate the cash to the team funds? Now that he is in Auckland he could get the Newmarket Organic Bakery (you could have Kingsland Newmarket, if the spelling offends).
Maybe All Nippon Airways could add the Ltd to their logo and put that on his jersey? Should go in front of the bakery abbreviation.
Actually I couldn't care less about his antics, just want the teams he plays for now to do well.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Highlanders vs. Blues:
Yeah I'm a huge fan of how he plays. No matter what @MN5 says, the guy has put in and been a real asset to the AB squad. I personally don't think he did this to cause a stir. I saw it during the game and didn't even think a second thought. I was just hoping he'd wouldn't play well so the Landers would win.
I've seen other Super rugby players put tape on logos whether it's on compression gear or headgear. Those appear to be for financial and/or contractual purposes. This appears to be the same given its a contractual reason that has allowed him to tape over a sponsor.
It's neither here nor there for me. Bring on next week.
I've never said he wasn't a good player
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@ACT-Crusader said in Highlanders vs. Blues:
I personally don't think he did this to cause a stir.
Of all the headlines this guy has created over the years... this is the first time I believe he did do it to create a fuss. Not saying he doesn't believe in what he's doing, but there are any number of ways he could have handled it that wouldn't have created this distraction for his team.
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