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Just saw episode 5 and its starting to get very complex. There are just so many characters and subplots that you almost need a reference manual to keep track.<br />
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[quote name='Rancid Schnitzel']Just saw episode 5 and its starting to get very complex. There are just so many characters and subplots that you almost need a reference manual to keep track.<br />
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Agreed, it is very complex. At the end of each episode I have to phone my mate who has read the book to ask questions - although TBF I probably understand who most of the characters are now. -
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[quote name='Quo vadis']Loving this show,[B] might even eclipse Rome for my all time favorite HBO show.[/B] They have done a good job I think setting up the characters with such limited time to do so.<br />
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I'm assuming you haven't seen The Wire? <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' /><br />
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I really like it although some parts really frustrate me, some of the characterisation seems a bit odd at times. Is the hold of the Wall and being a Nightstalker really so great that Snow wouldn't go join Rob on the march South? It just annoys me.<br />
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Also, I find it interesting the primitive people are 'brown' of skin. Bloody typical <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':)' />.<br />
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I have a mate who loves the books and I always wind him up with how derivative they are and he launches into these long defences - then I read an article with the author where he acknowledges that he's liberally swiped from history as the basis of his stories. -
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Was going to say the same thing.<br />
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I really like it although some parts really frustrate me, some of the characterisation seems a bit odd at times. Is the hold of the Wall and being a Nightstalker really so great that Snow wouldn't go join Rob on the march South? It just annoys me.<br />
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Because he would have his head cut off for desertion. And it would probably have to be Robb who did it. (Think back to Ned in the first episode).<br />
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[quote]Also, I find it interesting the primitive people are 'brown' of skin. Bloody typical .[/quote]<br />
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The Dothraki are olive skinned and are conveyed as primitive I guess. But then they are a nomadic people living in a hot part of the world where there isn't the same proximity to other civilizations as there is in the seven kingdoms (Westeros), so science/culture advancement is probably going to be slower.<br />
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[quote name='Don Frye']Was going to say the same thing.<br />
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Because he would have his head cut off for desertion. And it would probably have to be Robb who did it. (Think back to Ned in the first episode).<br />
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The Dothraki are olive skinned and are conveyed as primitive I guess. But then they are a nomadic people living in a hot part of the world where there isn't the same proximity to other civilizations as there is in the seven kingdoms (Westeros), so science/culture advancement is probably going to be slower.<br />
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The Summer Islanders which you don't really meet until the fourth book are black, and aren't portayed as being primitive, quite the opposite.[/QUOTE]<br />
I didn't realise the guy in the first scene was a Nightstalker (is that what they're called?), I just thought he was a general guard. At any rate his uncle is (was) always wandering back and forward from the Wall - Snow could go kill some Lanissters and then return to his duties!<br />
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Another thing that annoyed me was the 'dance' teacher not picking up one of the swords when he had the chance. Frustrating.<br />
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You should read the books, they're fantastic. The fifth installment is out next month so you could slide straight into it. (As opposed to having to wait six years as some have had to!).<br />
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And yes, it seems there has been a fair share of full frontal male nudity in the last three episodes!<br />
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ps they're called the Nights Watch. And they're sworn to protect the realm but not to interfere in its affairs. Benjen Stark having business in Winterfell when the King was there is probably not quite of the scale of taking sides and joining the war!<br />
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The guy who had his head lopped off by Ned Starks greatsword in the first episode was a ranger in the Nightswatch. The punishment for desertion is death. -
[quote name='Don Frye']You should read the books, they're fantastic. The fifth installment is out next month so you could slide straight into it. (As opposed to having to wait six years as some have had to!).<br />
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And yes, it seems there has been a fair share of full frontal male nudity in the last three episodes!<br />
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ps they're called the Nights Watch. And they're sworn to protect the realm but not to interfere in its affairs. Benjen Stark having business in Winterfell when the King was there is probably not quite of the scale of taking sides and joining the war!<br />
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The guy who had his head lopped off by Ned Starks greatsword in the first episode was a ranger in the Nightswatch. The punishment for desertion is death.[/QUOTE]<br />
Ah, cheers. I hate fantasy books. But I might read this series equivalent book(s) at the end of the series. -
Am waiting til I have the whole series, and will watch it over a week or so, but am eagerly awaiting the last episodes so I can start watching.
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watched season one, was decent, but no where near the detail, and epicness of Rome.<br />
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[quote name='Quo vadis']watched season one, was decent, but no where near the detail, and epicness of Rome.<br />
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:shock: Blasphemous! If I ever get over the shock of someone suggesting that Rome has more epicness and detail than the Wire I'll let you know. -
[quote name='Nepia']I'm assuming you haven't seen The Wire? <img src='http://www.daimenhutchison.com/invision/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.png' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=';)' /><br />
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I've not sat down to watch the Wire - am waiting on borrowing the DVD sets off my brother.<br />
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I can however say that Deadwood was pretty high up on my list of high quality HBO programming. Like eating a kobe steak dinner compared to most other dramas.<br />
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Do you think this will actually get picked up by any of the NZ channels? I can't see it fitting any of TVNZ's brackets - and the AO rating/scenes will surely get it dumped into an 11:30pm or later slot.<br />
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[quote name='timslim']I've not sat down to watch the Wire - am waiting on borrowing the DVD sets off my brother.<br />
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I can however say that Deadwood was pretty high up on my list of high quality HBO programming. Like eating a kobe steak dinner compared to most other dramas.<br />
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Do you think this will actually get picked up by any of the NZ channels? I can't see it fitting any of TVNZ's brackets - and the AO rating/scenes will surely get it dumped into an 11:30pm or later slot.<br />
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I think it will go on to Sky Movies amd then Prime, just like Boardwalk Empire. Prob a 9.30pm timeslot like Spartacus -
[quote name='Nepia']:shock: Blasphemous! If I ever get over the shock of someone suggesting that Rome has more epicness and detail than the Wire I'll let you know.[/QUOTE]<br />
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I've only watched the first two seasons of The Wire and while I really enjoyed both seasons I wouldn't call it epic. Amazing detail, great characters with a great ensemble cast but hardly an epic.<br />
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Maybe I'm being sucked into a traditional definition of 'epic' that doesn't include Baltimore cops, dealers and junkies and failing to see the epic refers to more than vistas, sets, costumes and sweeping historical arcs.<br />
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As for Game of Thrones, why did they drop the 'A' and will the entire TV series be called Game of Thrones instead of by the individual book titles.<br />
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I've really enjoyed the series so far (up to episode eight). Looking forward to the last two as this is when the surprises come and the standard fantasy conventions are broken.<br />
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Most of the casting has been right on and even the child actors are holding their own. Personally I think they have exaggerated certain characteristics in Joffrey (clearly a douche) which has taken away some of the depth and mystery. Quite a lot is made in the books of Joffery looking and behaving (for the most part) as a true price (although almost all of this is from Sansa's perspective). <br />
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I'm not quite sure why Lancel Lannister is being portrayed as a foppish nancy-boy - when he's often described as a poor copy of Jamie. <br />
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Gendry and Rickon are also too old. I can see why they're gone for an older kid for Rickon although that does take away from the fact that he is essentially an abandoned toddler but having Gendry as 20 something or even late teens is going to change the dynamics is seasons two. Where there no stocky dark-haired 14 year-olds in Ireland? -
[quote name='timslim']I've not sat down to watch the Wire - am waiting on borrowing the DVD sets off my brother.<br />
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I can however say that Deadwood was pretty high up on my list of high quality HBO programming. Like eating a kobe steak dinner compared to most other dramas.<br />
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Do you think this will actually get picked up by any of the NZ channels? I can't see it fitting any of TVNZ's brackets - and the AO rating/scenes will surely get it dumped into an 11:30pm or later slot.<br />
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Deadwood never made it here - nor did the Wire. Did Rome?[/QUOTE]<br />
NZ TV is pretty good at playing stuff - remember that Sopranos played on TV here but was HBO - so you never know.<br />
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The Wire played on TV 2 , quite late, but more due to the fact it's not a cookie cutter police show and wouldn't go well in the ratings than its content. Rome aired on TV One. Remember with the Wire you need to clear time to watch it - you can't watch half assed.<br />
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I'm 4 episodes into Deadwood and got bored, I haven't put it in the not watch basket yet but it didn't grip me at first like everyone else. <br />
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[QUOTE]Haha you're probably thinking the Khaleesi - I'm talking about getting some Headey![/QUOTE]<br />
I was initially thinking about Headey but thought you might have meant the Khalessi - her two slave girls are hotter. I assume you've watched the Terminator series?<br />
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[QUOTE]I've only watched the first two seasons of The Wire and while I really enjoyed both seasons I wouldn't call it epic. Amazing detail, great characters with a great ensemble cast but hardly an epic.<br />
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Maybe I'm being sucked into a traditional definition of 'epic' that doesn't include Baltimore cops, dealers and junkies and failing to see the epic refers to more than vistas, sets, costumes and sweeping historical arcs.[/QUOTE]<br />
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Seriously? Oh well each to their own.[/QUOTE]<br />
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Not arguing that The Wire isn't awesome (the first two seasons were at least) just that it doesn't really have that sweeping epic feel. <br />
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I've just about given up on convincing the missus to watch season three and will watch it myself to get a feel for the whole series.
