Biggest Tool in World Sport
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@MajorRage
Yeah the Wawrinka thing was poor in my (non judgemental opinion
) but he apologised and if I had all my shit comments playing sport publicised I'd come out heaps worse.It ain't black and white but still I think my premise of "who knows and who gives a fuck what people I see on the tele are like"
All those years in Asia and Thailand, Rage, where you start a bagging someone conversation with Asians and get a shrug of the shoulders and a genuine "Up to him" or "not my business" - and they REALLY don't seem to give a fuck as they strive to get through the day happy (especially the dirt poor ones) - a nice lesson I reckon
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@antipodean
Braveness in my opinion because he says things we all know people don't want to hear. Contrast with the hollow forced apologies that we're supposed to swallow (Woods, Nugget every NRL player) for "PR" reasons - that's not brave, that's deceipt -
In summary I can see how people don't like him (I think calling him mentally unfit might be over egging the cake a bit) but I've tried to look at it from other angles and am more comfortable with my opinion - but opinions are like arseholes eh?
I do think that a hotel cleaner performs more of a function for society than a sportsperson or actor and I do think the likes of dysfunctional bankers and politicians are more in the ilk of fuckwits because they can and do real harm to me and my kin.
And I value brutal honesty
Thanks for taking the time to reply to me though
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@Hooroo said in Biggest Tool in World Sport:
Off topic, but I think of a wet lettuce as being freshly washed and crisp.
Correct, washing a lettuce makes the cells absorb more water via osmosis, making them more turgid / less flaccid.
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@TeWaio said in Biggest Tool in World Sport:
@Hooroo said in Biggest Tool in World Sport:
Off topic, but I think of a wet lettuce as being freshly washed and crisp.
Correct, washing a lettuce makes the cells absorb more water via osmosis, making them more turgid / less flaccid.
Unless the lettuce has become wet through mild rot from being left in the fridge for too long.
I need to change my diet.
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Serene Williams fast becoming the next biggest 'tool' at least in tennnis
Especially after how she left the Auckland event a couple weeks ago, now this. -
@Virgil said in Biggest Tool in World Sport:
Serene Williams fast becoming the next biggest 'tool' at least in tennnis
Read my mind. She is certainly up there.
To get back on topic - a mate found a Maccas big mac under the seat of his car. Reckoned it must have been there for 6 months and the lettuce was still green. WTF do they do to it?
@Bones Are you being literal there about Gayle?
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@Virgil i understand about the interview stuff, but the Auckland thing is a bit rough, she even said the other day in an unrelated presser at the Open how disappointed she was not to get to play in Auckland, she really wanted to.
She's always been a bit prickly, this is nothing new really.
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@Virgil said in Biggest Tool in World Sport:
Serene Williams fast becoming the next biggest 'tool' at least in tennnis
Especially after how she left the Auckland event a couple weeks ago, now this.I am so fine with her response to this. She was showing respect to opponent.
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@Siam said in Biggest Tool in World Sport:
@Nepia
Why would he?Would you?
Do half the world's employees quit their job because one or a few aspects disappoint them?
I've never had a job that's 100% fine and great.
Not arguing Neps, just trying to hold him accountable to the same values of myself and the people around me whom I consider genuine.
Once you objectify the actual occupation, he's just a kid in the world (albeit a public one) in my opinion.
And the job opportunities and sponsorship and prize money (wages) just keep rolling in because of his talent, so why wouldn't we keep working till something demonstrably better comes along?
edit: he's not a shitty contractor mate, he's top 20 in a pool of 6 billion!
Nah I think he is a shitty contractor and he's been suspended because of it. He's good at one aspect of his job, at times, but at other times he's shitty at it and he's shitty at the other parts pretty much non stop. Just because he's good at the hitting the ball over the net part of his job it doesn't mean he's a good contractor. To give you an example, at my work we just let two lecturers go, both great at teaching what they teach (acting and cinematography) but completely hopeless at the other aspects of their job (attendance, marking, being collegial etc).
I also don't believe this kid bullshit, he's an adult, he needs to grow up. And no I don't in the least think he's brave for carrying on like a twat. Jeff Wilson didn't enjoy rugby for a time, he said that and then went and did something else. He didn't keep repeating it over and over again (coincidentally these outbursts seem to happen every time he's had a loss).
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I read an article from his former coach that implied he's practicing less than an hour a day. And now he's out in the 2nd round of his home Open, losing to a lesser opponent. If we must compare sport to normal jobs, that's insufficient effort leading to failing to meet expectations, and that would normally involve some sort of discipline.
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@Nepia said in Biggest Tool in World Sport:
@Siam If he was really brave in secure in himself he would quit the job he doesn't like - as it is he's just a shitty contractor with a poor work effort to go go with being a twat.
Why should he quit though? He earns a lot of money by doing hardly any work. I doubt he would enjoy another job anymore. Kyrgios has to maintain certain performance standards in order to have a career and he does maintain those standards. If he can maintain those standards while putting in no effort, I can't blame him for continuing to do that. Tennis fans can hate him if they want but I don't think Kyrgios cares about that.
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@mariner4life said in Biggest Tool in World Sport:
I read an article from his former coach that implied he's practicing less than an hour a day. And now he's out in the 2nd round of his home Open, losing to a lesser opponent. If we must compare sport to normal jobs, that's insufficient effort leading to failing to meet expectations, and that would normally involve some sort of discipline.
The discipline is that he receives a lower amount of prize money. It is the same punishment Djokovic received.
It's not comparable to a normal job. In a normal job, if you are paid 100k, you are expected to do that amount and quality of work. Kyrgios is paid nothing because nothing is expected of him. He only receives money when he performs not based on expectations of performance.
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If his sponsors like Nike and Yonex drop him he'll need to change his attitude as Kyrgios will then be relying on prize money to make a living. Kyrgios has said numerous times that he doesn't enjoy tennis so we can assume it's mainly about the $$$ at this stage of his career.
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I'm with Siam.
I watched him up close at an exhibition match in Sydney recently, and I like him. He's genuine. He's entertaining. He's talented.
Yes he's a brat too, but FFS he's 21 and been training as a tennis player since he was very young. I'm not surprised he's a bit fucked up. But from people who know him, he's a genuinely good kid just trying to work out what he wants. And I don't think he's well advised or supported.
Bernard Tomic is a legitimate tool, who gets in trouble with the cops and is clearly an arrogant fuckwad. I don't think Kyrgios is the same at all. I see a kid grappling with his own identity in the most public of settings, and I have a bit of sympathy.
And I love watching him play. Through both the good and the bad he's incredibly watchable. That counts for a lot IMO.
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@barbarian people say exactly the same about Mundine. At what point are we allowed to only judge the public persona.
I get the "getting by with minimal effort thing" it's almost my personal mantra FFS. And if he's cool with it, then good on the lad, fill your boots.
Maybe i am guilty of projecting my own values on to him, as wasted talent pisses me off. I had to work extra hard for anything i ever "achieved" in sport, and to see someone with natural ability just cruising and appearing to not give a fuck about any of it gets to me.
I'm not going to forgive him quitting in the middle of matches or mouthing off at the crowd though, genuine or not, that's piston wristed gibbon behaviour.
