Those sports stars you just can't warm to
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@jegga said in Those sports stars you just can't warm to:
@WillieTheWaiter thats awesome . After listening to him a couple of months back on a podcast I kind of agree with you about moving on
There's two things about Armstrong - people either don't like him because he doped and they felt cheated when they found out, or secondly because he was a prick to people that tried to take him down.
The doping thing I have no issue with - because doping has always been a part of cycling since the beginning of cycling. He didn't make it any worse, he just did what everyone did when they were riding. I kind of look at it like drink driving in the 70's - you knew you probably weren't supposed to do it but everyone did it and that's just how it was. Cultures take a long time to change.
I find it utterly ridiculous that he was doing exactly the same as everyone else in the sport but he gets a life time ban and everyone else got a slap with a wet bus ticket. In fact I'll go ever further and say I respect him for refusing to rat out his mates like Johan Bruneel etc..
As for being a prick to people - I guess I couldn't give a shit about that because I think the whole 'He ruined peoples lives' is so fucking over dramatized it's ridiculous. At the end of the day pretty much the worse thing that happened is these people lost their jobs. But you know, if you think losing a job is your life ruined then you've got a thin skin. I saw Swarts life had 'been ruined' and I'm like whatever - you retired, moved back to nz and run a successful business. Just a media beat up that many haters like to jump on board with.
I tell you what does actually ruin lives - cancer. But somehow the good work on that front where he has provided inspiration to literally thousands of people, along with the millions he raised isn't allowed to count because he treated a handful of people badly. Who he's apologised to...
Only person who hasn't accepted that is Betsy Andreu. But you know what - she can get fcuked if I was Lance I would be pi$$ed with her still too. But yourself in the situation where you're laying in bed with cancer with a low chance of living, you tell doctors some info not really caring who hears and hey it's your best mate who's doing the same sh*t as you.. and his wife takes that info and gives it to your mortal enemy.. yeh I think you'd be lying if you wouldn't be pi$$ed about that (maybe it's just me - i know i can hold grudges - it's a croatian thing
anyway it's sh*t that happened 10 years ago - i just can't understand why people can't give up on it.
And this is not how to take an awesome photo. Had a stupid look on face all day and the half thumbs up really not working!..
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Yeah dude, what a humiliator of a photo! Looks as though you're practising for a vank later on!
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funny, to me it looks like he is the only one of the 3 cruising up the hill #afleet #dopedtothegills
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haha, @mariner4life dunno, looks a bit sus to me, like @Hooroo , he has a plan for what is gonna happen when they get to the top....
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@taniwharugby the carpet burns on the knee suggest maybe he had a little taster beforehand
TBH looks like WTW wants to take a massive dump and is trying to pretend nothings going on.
Maybe Lance is very giving
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@WillieTheWaiter you even made it on Stuff! Just so famous, mate!!!
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@MajorRage yeah that's the one. I think I posted a link to it a while ago . He seemed like he'd learned a bit about life since he took a massive kicking in public .
Speaking of which he did one last weekend with James Hetfeild who seemed like he had his shit together far more than he did when they made that embarrassing doco . Sobriety appears to agree with him. -
I was shocked when he got busted , not because he was doping ,more that people were so surprised , I wasnt 100 % certain he was , but I more than strongly suspected it ,
Just like I do now with the biggest name in sprinting. .
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What I don't like about Armstrong is not so much the doping...it's the fact he actually sued people for libel when they claimed he was doping...
Also he was the poster boy for giving cancer sufferers hope, that chance to do some good is gone.
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Speaking as a drug-using cyclist, my issue with him isn't as he is a cheat, a liar, a conman, a hypocrite or a spandex wearer. It is because of the documented next-level cuntery towards anyone who accused him of any of the above. One of the biggest fluffybunnies ever in my humble etc.
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@Crucial said in Those sports stars you just can't warm to:
Andy Murray - just won the Brit 'Sports Personality of the Year# for the third time. How he even qualifies as a 'personality' is beyond me. He has to be one of the most boring sportspeople on the planet.
That is where the logic in this falls down.
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@Bones
Like Crucial says, its because it's a public vote, so it almost never actually goes to the best sports person in the year (tho this year it did), it goes to whoever was wildly popular with the average gimp viewer.Hence Browlee coming 2nd mainly for carrying his brother over the line in some triathalon & the avalanche of press that got.
He had as great year, but he wasn't the 2nd best brit sportsman this year.
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Oh i bet lion are regretting this now
http://m.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11771643
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@jegga be interesting to see the exact nature of their marketing campaign, because you'd have to think it was always going to be risky with such a high profile and controversial person.
TBH, I wont drink Steinlager any more or less than normal...actually, I have drunk more than normal as I had a liquid lunch yesterday and had Steinlager Pure, which I don't normally have, I musta been swayed by some subliminal marketing tool!
