All Blacks v Ireland II
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I've just one thing to say to every NZ fan the whole world over. I hope they're listening.
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Nah.
The reaction has been a legitimate discussion this week.
The reaction in Ireland, media and social media, has been extraordinary.
Wasn't even a particularly controversial game from an Ireland / reffing / judiciary perspective. Very surprised, as watching with my own patch on, that most definitely wasn't what I thought the after match focus was going to be.
It's been amazing to me to read.
Don't know enough about Irish media to differentiate the paid trolls from legit journos, so impression sticks.
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@Rapido said in Ireland II:
Nah.
The reaction has been a legitimate discussion this week.
The reaction in Ireland, media and social media, has been extraordinary.
Wasn't even a particularly controversial game from an Ireland / reffing / judiciary perspective. Very surprised, as watching with my own patch on, that most definitely wasn't what I thought the after match focus was going to be.
It's been amazing to me to read.
Don't know enough about Irish media to differentiate the paid trolls from legit journos, so impression sticks.
This. I don't see why we can't discuss the reaction from the Irish . It's been something to behold considering the game wasn't even close and the things they were whining about were for the most part bullshit,
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@bluedex said in Ireland II:
@Billy-Tell Hey, never use the words "Canadians" "Alternatives" and "Americans" in the same sentence!
Yeah you're probably right but honestly, all wind-ups aside, the "whingeing" angle has obviously been massively overstated in NZ. Most people here are perplexed by it."Whinging "
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@jegga said in Ireland II:
@bluedex said in Ireland II:
@Billy-Tell Hey, never use the words "Canadians" "Alternatives" and "Americans" in the same sentence!
Yeah you're probably right but honestly, all wind-ups aside, the "whingeing" angle has obviously been massively overstated in NZ. Most people here are perplexed by it."Whinging "
Speak English
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@Billy-Tell said in Ireland II:
And here I was thinking Canadians were laid back easy going alternatives to Americans.
Look the Irish are extremely loyal to their local sides. They are superb at supporting their team they travel en masse around Europe to do so.
The flip side is that objectivity is not a strongpoint as that would negate blind loyalty and as i said if there's one thing you can't accuse the Irish of its disloyalty.
The Irish were aggrieved about what they saw as thuggery and went into bat for their side. It's what they do.
Nah, a lot of people in Americalite have an inferiority complex about their place in the world. Look at this cringeworthy thing, most of them can quote it word for word.
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@bluedex said in Ireland II:
...why do you even care?? ...
Basically @bluedex this is our outlet to point out inaccuracies about points.
Most of us here are NZers and we're part of the All Blacks as a result.
When some inaccurate, and in many cases offensive, comment is made about a team of which we are a part, and extended to include each and every one of us (ie., "Cheating New Zealanders") we like to defend ourselves.
This is our forum for doing so. We don't have access to mass circulation publications in which to write offensive lies like so many of your columnists have.
BTW, sure this is anecdotal and it's only one person, not "everybody" but check out the story 1min 25s into the second link. Seriously? Immigration officer?
Interview Tony Johnston with Martin Devlin from Thursday. Interview starts 1.50 into first link.
http://120.138.20.16/WeekOnDemand/radiosport/2016.11.24-09.00.00-D.mp3
http://120.138.20.16/WeekOnDemand/radiosport/2016.11.24-09.15.00-D.mp3 -
@jegga said in Ireland II:
Looks like we've got another Irish troll on the forum. It's been a while since showed up so I guess we were due another. I'm assuming by the amount of "lols" and "lmao" this ones preteen which is unusual .
You've a thing about trolls, Jegga. Careful now, you don't want to get in a tizz again.
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@Kruse said in Ireland II:
@Sapetyvi said in Ireland II:
@Kruse appreciate your work 😂😂
Cheers - I did let a "their" / "they're" go, but thought - fuck it, I don't want to look like a pedant.
One issue at a time.Never let it go @Kruse . I'll join you on your (please note that is correct) crusade.
I'm an apostrophe nazi from way back.
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@jegga said in Ireland II:
@Billy-Tell said in Ireland II:
And here I was thinking Canadians were laid back easy going alternatives to Americans.
Look the Irish are extremely loyal to their local sides. They are superb at supporting their team they travel en masse around Europe to do so.
The flip side is that objectivity is not a strongpoint as that would negate blind loyalty and as i said if there's one thing you can't accuse the Irish of its disloyalty.
The Irish were aggrieved about what they saw as thuggery and went into bat for their side. It's what they do.
Nah, a lot of people in Americalite have an inferiority complex about their place in the world. Look at this cringeworthy thing, most of them can quote it word for word.
Actually that's quite cool
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@Pot-Hale said in Ireland II:
@jegga said in Ireland II:
Looks like we've got another Irish troll on the forum. It's been a while since showed up so I guess we were due another. I'm assuming by the amount of "lols" and "lmao" this ones preteen which is unusual .
You've a thing about trolls, Jegga. Careful now, you don't want to get in a tizz again.
Yeah I think anyone who join a forum to be a cock is pathetic and deserves whatever they get . The last two we had were irish from memory,
One spent the best part of a week telling the reaction from the Irish to our exit in 2007 was deserved because of what happened to BOD.
The second was one that spent a weekend telling us they was nothing wrong with the project player scheme and we were the real poachers, his last act before he left was to give me and JC likes for calling him a troll. In response you put me on ignore for a year or so which makes me wonder who was the one who got into a tizz.I do wonder if you understand how tedious the response from the press etc is every time we head north? Every year it the same bullshit or variations of it, this year we are back to that old favourite of the WR being afraid to rein the abs in and referees to penalise them. I wonder what your response would be if year after year no matter what the result was the usual suspects came out with this crap before the Irish team even got on the plane? I suspect your attitude would be exactly the same as ours, you and Bluedex have tried to excuse it by saying that rugby isn't your main sport and these aren't mainstream writers . If thats the case do you think the casual fan knows that and can tell the difference? That diplomatic immunity article is worse than anything I can remember from the english press in the early 2000s when they were going full steam on the poaching /basketball rugby angle at us.
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@jegga said in Ireland II:
@Pot-Hale said in Ireland II:
@jegga said in Ireland II:
Looks like we've got another Irish troll on the forum. It's been a while since showed up so I guess we were due another. I'm assuming by the amount of "lols" and "lmao" this ones preteen which is unusual .
You've a thing about trolls, Jegga. Careful now, you don't want to get in a tizz again.
Yeah I think anyone who join a forum to be a cock is pathetic and deserves whatever they get . The last two we had were irish from memory,
One spent the best part of a week telling the reaction from the Irish to our exit in 2007 was deserved because of what happened to BOD.
The second was one that spent a weekend telling us they was nothing wrong with the project player scheme and we were the real poachers, his last act before he left was to give me and JC likes for calling him a troll. In response you put me on ignore for a year or so which makes me wonder who was the one who got into a tizz.I do wonder if you understand how tedious the response from the press etc is every time we head north? Every year it the same bullshit or variations of it, this year we are back to that old favourite of the WR being afraid to rein the abs in and referees to penalise them. I wonder what your response would be if year after year no matter what the result was the usual suspects came out with this crap before the Irish team even got on the plane? I suspect your attitude would be exactly the same as ours, you and Bluedex have tried to excuse it by saying that rugby isn't your main sport and these aren't mainstream writers . If thats the case do you think the casual fan knows that and can tell the difference? That diplomatic immunity article is worse than anything I can remember from the english press in the early 2000s when they were going full steam on the poaching /basketball rugby angle at us.
What a fucking cry baby.
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Real nice thread we had going here, before a few blokes vomited all over it.
This is why we can't have nice things
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@jegga said in Ireland II:
@Pot-Hale said in Ireland II:
@jegga said in Ireland II:
Looks like we've got another Irish troll on the forum. It's been a while since showed up so I guess we were due another. I'm assuming by the amount of "lols" and "lmao" this ones preteen which is unusual .
You've a thing about trolls, Jegga. Careful now, you don't want to get in a tizz again.
Yeah I think anyone who join a forum to be a cock is pathetic and deserves whatever they get . The last two we had were irish from memory,
One spent the best part of a week telling the reaction from the Irish to our exit in 2007 was deserved because of what happened to BOD.
The second was one that spent a weekend telling us they was nothing wrong with the project player scheme and we were the real poachers, his last act before he left was to give me and JC likes for calling him a troll. In response you put me on ignore for a year or so which makes me wonder who was the one who got into a tizz.I do wonder if you understand how tedious the response from the press etc is every time we head north? Every year it the same bullshit or variations of it, this year we are back to that old favourite of the WR being afraid to rein the abs in and referees to penalise them. I wonder what your response would be if year after year no matter what the result was the usual suspects came out with this crap before the Irish team even got on the plane? I suspect your attitude would be exactly the same as ours, you and Bluedex have tried to excuse it by saying that rugby isn't your main sport and these aren't mainstream writers . If thats the case do you think the casual fan knows that and can tell the difference? That diplomatic immunity article is worse than anything I can remember from the english press in the early 2000s when they were going full steam on the poaching /basketball rugby angle at us.
Nope - you're wrong. I haven't attempted to excuse it. Perhaps that's how you perceive it. Nor have I said that rugby isn't the main sport is an excuse. It's plenty popular and receives a lot of media coverage generally when Ireland are playing a prominent team. Some of the commenters are not mainstream, some are. But it's just not that important. It's gone way overboard with one side is feeding the other. Whinging about whinging was a good summary earlier in this topic.
I could have responded with each time a NH team visits NZ that some media and fans online are lesss than witted. Or the endless tedious references to BOD and 2005 that inevitably emerge. But what's the point in responding to these kind of inane or biased comments either in Ireland, UK or New Zealand? Because in most instances the people making them don't want to listen to reason or counter points - you're just a whinging Pom, paddy, northern rugby fan, Kiwi or you need to 'harden up' - a phrase that I just find laughable every time someone utters it.
This forum and a couple of others tends to be different in that differing views are heard, listened to and responded to in measured language - for the most part. It's what I like about it.
This particular topic is no longer a good example of that.
I'll leave it there.
I wish New Zealand good luck against France.
