All Blacks v Ireland II
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@Pot-Hale expect that is more reflective of lazy journalism.
Although I do recall reading something before the Chicago test that had match-ups to watch for, but only really looked at halfback, hooker and centre (which I think was because Payne was playing centre)
I liken this to the tension before the RWC final in 2011.
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@Pot-Hale see, you are blessed. Every year you get the 6N, with all its hatred and passion, you'll generally lose at least one game, and you can have recriminations etc. There is normally a reverse in November, and in June as well. You're used to it. The press are used to it. The team is used to it. There is always someone to talk up, someone to rubbish, someone to heap blame/hope on. You get to live man, to actually live.
We have spent the last few years ritually disemboweling all and sundry. Our closest rivals have fallen in a hole somewhat. We normally waltz through November. We haven't lost a home test since time immemorial. The 4N is usually over with a couple of rounds to go. And our "press" are left with either crowing arrogantly about how great we are, crowing about why we have the 25 best players in the world, and how dare anyone disagree, or trying desperately to stay humble despite wanting to crow about how great we are.
Then we get a shock reverse and they are a bit lost. So they tend to grab the opportunity to live as the other half do. Recrimination! hindsight! talk up the opposition! underdogs! and as it's new ground for them, and they are not that bright, they don't do it well. I would take it all as a compliment.
All Blacks by 25
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@mariner4life you forgot the bleating about how boring the game
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@taniwharugby said in Ireland II:
@Pot-Hale
I liken this to the tension before the RWC final in 2011.
Really?
Jeez. I'm not going to be able to watch it live unfortunately as it's my son's birthday and go-karting is more interesting to himself and his mates. I'll either want to watch a replay or won't want to depending on the winning margin. :).
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@mariner4life said in Ireland II:
@Pot-Hale see, you are blessed. Every year you get the 6N, with all its hatred and passion, you'll generally lose at least one game, and you can have recriminations etc. There is normally a reverse in November, and in June as well. You're used to it. The press are used to it. The team is used to it. There is always someone to talk up, someone to rubbish, someone to heap blame/hope on. You get to live man, to actually live.
We have spent the last few years ritually disemboweling all and sundry. Our closest rivals have fallen in a hole somewhat. We normally waltz through November. We haven't lost a home test since time immemorial. The 4N is usually over with a couple of rounds to go. And our "press" are left with either crowing arrogantly about how great we are, crowing about why we have the 25 best players in the world, and how dare anyone disagree, or trying desperately to stay humble despite wanting to crow about how great we are.
Then we get a shock reverse and they are a bit lost. So they tend to grab the opportunity to live as the other half do. Recrimination! hindsight! talk up the opposition! underdogs! and as it's new ground for them, and they are not that bright, they don't do it well. I would take it all as a compliment.
All Blacks by 25
Now that is the best comment posted in the last fortnight. 👍
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@Pot-Hale as I said above, it is a game we know we should win if we play well, but a fortnight ago, showed if we are off by even a small margin and the Irish play well again...well, I guess its just lucky I don't see my cousins Irish partner too often
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@taniwharugby said in Ireland II:
@Pot-Hale as I said above, it is a game we know we should win if we play well, but a fortnight ago, showed if we are off by even a small margin and the Irish play well again...well, I guess its just lucky I don't see my cousins Irish partner too often
Yes I could see how that would be annoying. Given the Irish habit of living off one victory for over a hundred years. Or over 800 years if it's against the British obviously....
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@Pot-Hale ha he's not that bad really, actually a good fluffybunny.
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@Pot-Hale said in Ireland II:
Jeez. I'm not going to be able to watch it live unfortunately as it's my son's birthday and go-karting is more interesting to himself and his mates. I'll either want to watch a replay or won't want to depending on the winning margin. :).
Don't worry PH, it's only the All Blacks
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@Billy-Tell I trust you marked today by shooting an apple off your son's head?
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@No-Quarter said in Ireland II:
@Billy-Tell I trust you marked today by shooting an apple off your son's head?
I only have daughters. And in case you were wondering, no I didn't formerly have a son who perished in an unfortunate shooting accident.
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@DMX said in Ireland II:
Aaron Smith owes the team a big one.
As long as he doesn't pull it out when they are in the toilet. Anyway, Smith has to, he has genuine competition now for his starting position..
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Quite, they are a bunch of no names in NZ eyes. That's why it was so impressive in Chicago.
Let's not forget how they lost to the argies in the rwc.
It is inconceivable we lose to them tomorrow. But it is a possibility and that's why tomorrow is the biggest game of the year for me.
I can't wait, feels like the biggest game for a long time.
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@da_grubster said in Ireland II:
It is inconceivable we lose to them tomorrow. But it is a possibility and that's why tomorrow is the biggest game of the year for me.
I can't wait, feels like the biggest game for a long time.
What was the last "big game feel" match with a lot of pride on the line that they lost? Cardiff maybe - but some would argue part of the reason we lost was because we didn't treat it as a big game going into it. It certainly didn't feel like it to me going into it.
In all honesty it is probably the 2003 semi final where there was an expectation/necessity to do the business and they failed.
In between they've triumphed in 14 games that had that "big match feel" by my count since then; first test in the 2004 England series, 2004 Paris, first two tests of the Lions Series, 2005 English Grand Slam fixture, 2008 Auckland Bledisloe decider, 2009 Marseille, semi and final in 2011 RWC, 2013 TRC decider, 2015 Auckland Bledisloe decider, quarter/semi/final in 2015. Perhaps throw the 2010 Soccer City game in there too.
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@da_grubster said in Ireland II:
It is inconceivable we lose to them tomorrow. But it is a possibility ...
Um Grubby ...
... but i get what you mean.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Ireland II:
@Pot-Hale said in Ireland II:
Jeez. I'm not going to be able to watch it live unfortunately as it's my son's birthday and go-karting is more interesting to himself and his mates. I'll either want to watch a replay or won't want to depending on the winning margin. :).
Don't worry PH, it's only the All Blacks
I know - that's what my son said....
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@da_grubster said in Ireland II:
inconceivable...
I don't think it means what you think it means..
