Wallaby EOYT 2016
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@MiketheSnow commiserations. The Wallabies looked to run out of puff in the final 15. Oz won the collisions and the backs seemed to grow a leg from that.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Wallaby EOYT 2016:
@MiketheSnow commiserations. The Wallabies looked to run out of puff in the final 15.
There was an element of that, but I think our reserves made things a little disjointed, particularly the forwards.
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WALLABIES squad to play Scotland
IN: Will Genia, Dean Mumm, Will Skelton, Tom Robertson,
OUT: Nick Frisby, Sefa Naivalu, Scott Fardy, James Slipper
1.Scott Sio (26 Tests)
2.Stephen Moore (c) (113 Tests)
3.Sekope Kepu (74 Tests)
4.Rory Arnold (7 Tests)
5.Adam Coleman (8 Tests)
6.David Pocock (62 Tests)
7.Michael Hooper (62 Tests)
8.Lopeti Timani (4 Tests)
9.Will Genia (72 Tests)
10.Bernard Foley (38 Tests)
11.Henry Speight (7 Tests)
12.Reece Hodge (7 Tests)
13.Tevita Kuridrani (41 Tests)
14.Dane Haylett-Petty (11 Tests)
15.Israel Folau (49 Tests)Reserves
16.Tolu Latu (1 Test)
17.Tom Robertson (4 Tests)
18.Allan Alaalatoa (6 Tests)
19.Rob Simmons (67 Tests)
20.Will Skelton (16 Tests)
21.Dean Mumm (53 Tests)
22.Nick Phipps (49 Tests)
23.Quade Cooper (65 Tests) -
Scotland team:
1.Allan Dell
2.Ross Ford
3.Zander Fagerson
4.Richie Gray
5.Jonny Gray
6.John Barclay
7.Hamish Watson
8.Ryan Wilson
9.Greig Laidlaw (c)
10.Finn Russell
11.Tim Visser
12.Alex Dunbar
13.Huw Jones
14.Sean Maitland
15.Stuart HoggReserves:
16.Fraser Brown
17.Gordon Reid
18.Moray Low
19.Grant Gilchrist
20.John Hardie
21.Ali Price
22.Peter Horne
23.Rory Hugheshttp://thescotlandteam.com/2016/11/10/team-announcement-ford-to-ton-up-against-australia/
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@Stargazer said in Wallaby EOYT 2016:
Scotland team:
1.Allan Dell
2.Ross Ford
3.Zander Fagerson
4.Richie Gray
5.Jonny Gray
6.John Barclay
7.Hamish Watson
8.Ryan Wilson
9.Greig Laidlaw (c)
10.Finn Russell
11.Tim Visser
12.Alex Dunbar
13.Huw Jones
14.Sean Maitland
15.Stuart HoggReserves:
16.Fraser Brown
17.Gordon Reid
18.Moray Low
19.Grant Gilchrist
20.John Hardie
21.Ali Price
22.Peter Horne
23.Rory Hugheshttp://thescotlandteam.com/2016/11/10/team-announcement-ford-to-ton-up-against-australia/
In the pack only the hooker and locks survive from the QF side.
A new look midfield. The wing selections are interesting. Where's Seymour? Maitland had been in the naughty box but gets a start. Visser's a quality player and I quite like that other winger Hoyland.
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interesting Wallaby side. Top team again. Are these guys going to play every game on tour? I would have thought Scotland (despite recent bogey status) would be the game to do it.
Wallabies by 15-20
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@mariner4life said in Wallaby EOYT 2016:
interesting Wallaby side. Top team again. Are these guys going to play every game on tour? I would have thought Scotland (despite recent bogey status) would be the game to do it.
That would seem logical of course BUT I invoke the precepts of Yeah, Nah - on the following basis:
Couple of losses to Scotland in the last decade, plus the seething anger from RWC 2015 QF controversy, PLUS the fact it'll be cold and damp, which are conditions we don't excel in.
I think, for the credibility of the Wallabies, we fucking smash everyone we can as smashingly as possible on this tour.
Maybe, if we're going to rest blokes, it'll come in the form of using the bench differently, or maybe changing it up against France.
If we lose to France but win the Grand Slam, then I'd be happy with that.
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@NTA yea, that's probably a pretty fair summary. A grand slam would resonate better at home, and is a great target. France don't often get up for you guys anyway, so even rotating through some players you could still be golden.
Smashing everyone will be a lot harder if your best players are trying to play 5 tests in 5 weeks away from home. Isn't it England last? I reckon Cheika will be gunning hard for that one.
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It is probably the most important Test on tour.
I'm kind of glad it is last because it gives the maximum opportunity for acclimatisaion.
Smashing everyone will be a lot harder if your best players are trying to play 5 tests in 5 weeks away from home. Isn't it England last? I reckon Cheika will be gunning hard for that one.
Which is kind of why I think, if we manage to put a gap on Scotland, guys like Hooper and Moore will get a longer rest than they otherwise would.
Don't think Hooper has missed many minutes of Test rugby this year. If any. Though he's one of those guys who is far better playing than he is sitting down.
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Another point on the resting thing: with both Simmons and Skelton on the bench, Coleman and Arnold will probably get a decent rest.
The latter has had a couple of head knocks recently, and though they're not serious, having those two fire against Ireland and England will be extremely important.
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@Stargazer said in Wallaby EOYT 2016:
WALLABIES squad to play Scotland
IN: Will Genia, Dean Mumm, Will Skelton, Tom Robertson,
OUT: Nick Frisby, Sefa Naivalu, Scott Fardy, James Slipper
1.Scott Sio (26 Tests)
2.Stephen Moore (c) (113 Tests)
3.Sekope Kepu (74 Tests)
4.Rory Arnold (7 Tests)
5.Adam Coleman (8 Tests)
6.David Pocock (62 Tests)
7.Michael Hooper (62 Tests)
8.Lopeti Timani (4 Tests)
9.Will Genia (72 Tests)
10.Bernard Foley (38 Tests)
11.Henry Speight (7 Tests)
12.Reece Hodge (7 Tests)
13.Tevita Kuridrani (41 Tests)
14.Dane Haylett-Petty (11 Tests)
15.Israel Folau (49 Tests)Reserves
16.Tolu Latu (1 Test)
17.Tom Robertson (4 Tests)
18.Allan Alaalatoa (6 Tests)
19.Rob Simmons (67 Tests)
20.Will Skelton (16 Tests)
21.Dean Mumm (53 Tests)
22.Nick Phipps (49 Tests)
23.Quade Cooper (65 Tests)That's only 23. There's a player missing.
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Funny man
In a way, that 6/2 bench is Cheika telling Scotland that he knows conditions might not favour our backs, so we're just going to pack a little extra forward power in there. Skelton has lost about 10kg after being told he wasn't fit enough earlier in the year, and he'll be raring to put in a big 20 minutes.
Simmons is going to... uh... be Simmons
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@reprobate said in Wallaby EOYT 2016:
@NTA simmons is poop. you guys throw in a brand new guy, he plays better than simmons has, pretty much ever - then you throw in another new guy, and he does the fucking same. just drop him already.
Oh yeah I'll bring it up with Cheika next time we're having a team meeting
Not like I've been a fan of Simmons pretty much EVER.
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@Frye said in Wallaby EOYT 2016:
5 tough games at the end of the season with no rotation seems like a bad idea.
Definitely see a couple of losses coming up somewhere.
Given how the rest of the season has gone I think Cheika has no choice really. They don't have great depth at the moment and the first choice XV seem to be still getting to know each other.
It's an interesting bench with two reserve locks plus a 6/lock.
It's quite astounding the fall from grace that Slipper has taken. Yes he's had fitness issues, but when fit he has been a shadow of the player he was 12-18 months ago.
Will Quade even get a run if there are no injuries?
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@ACT-Crusader said in Wallaby EOYT 2016:
@Frye said in Wallaby EOYT 2016:
It's quite astounding the fall from grace that Slipper has taken. Yes he's had fitness issues, but when fit he has been a shadow of the player he was 12-18 months ago.
absolutely. he was the best prop in the rugby championship that season, and just hasn't come back the same. bit like kuridrani though that was longer ago.
Genia slots back into starters for Scotland
