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    African Monkey
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    @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

    @frugby said in All Blacks 2025:

    I get the vibe there is a whole crew of Aucklanders who are willing him on to fail, which I find really weird

    I find it really weird that's the vibe you get.

    Lol usually when you have mixed results as ABs coach you get criticized right?

    Foster got criticised for breathing by most of the country.

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    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

    @frugby said in All Blacks 2025:

    I get the vibe there is a whole crew of Aucklanders who are willing him on to fail, which I find really weird

    I find it really weird that's the vibe you get.

    Lol usually when you have mixed results as ABs coach you get criticized right?

    Foster got criticised for breathing eating by most of the country.

    Yes

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    @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

    @frugby said in All Blacks 2025:

    I get the vibe there is a whole crew of Aucklanders who are willing him on to fail, which I find really weird

    I find it really weird that's the vibe you get.

    Lol usually when you have mixed results as ABs coach you get criticized right?

    Foster got criticised for breathing eating by most of the country.

    Yes

    If I hadn’t had an Easter sleep in I would have written exactly this

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    @Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:

    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

    @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:

    @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

    @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2025:

    Fihaki and Bell are shaping up as two of the most biased AB selections of all time. Neither with any runs on the board bar age grade stuff, and now both have 5 or 6 players easily ahead of them this year. Bell is not even the best hooker at the Crusaders and Fihaki has the worst stats of any NZ winger that is in the frame by some distance.

    I'm expecting more of the same from Razor this year.

    Havilli and Blackadder want you to hold their beers

    Shane Philpott too (RIP), Ben Blair, George Bridge. Many more, enough to fill the whole bar

    Bernie McCahill, Mike Clamp, Marty Berry....

    I thought we were talking about Cantablacks. Lots of other guys who were less deserving of the jersey than others. Mark Carter was another

    Christ here we go.

    Carter had one Bledisloe Cup game where he was immense. There’s been far less deserving ABs than him.

    He made one outstanding tackle on Lynagh and we moved the best 7 to ever play the game to accomodate him. Not sure he was immense in the rest of the game.

    In all honesty I can't remember at all how he went in the other tests he played so not going to argue there.

    Was one hell of a tackle though.

    It was an immense tackle as was the rest of his game I’m assuming

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    @frugby said in All Blacks 2025:

    We have absolutely no idea how Razor will pick his squad

    Well.... we have the three squads he picked last year.....

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    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

    @frugby said in All Blacks 2025:

    We have absolutely no idea how Razor will pick his squad

    Well.... we have the three squads he picked last year.....

    Yes - in his first year in the job. Most coaches in any sport through time in their first year, will stick with what was around, with sprinkling of what they already know.

    As a fan it is somewhat frustrating, but it is also the easier way to build for the long term, because you develop a base.

    I don’t know why people can’t comprehend that just picking 15 new players isn’t a good idea. I’m seriously meant to believe people would have accepted us getting hidings in South Africa?

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    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

    @frugby said in All Blacks 2025:

    I get the vibe there is a whole crew of Aucklanders who are willing him on to fail, which I find really weird

    I find it really weird that's the vibe you get.

    Lol usually when you have mixed results as ABs coach you get criticized right?

    Foster got criticised for breathing by most of the country.

    You can criticise Razor for last year, but criticising a squad which hasn’t even been picked yet to me says you want the guy to fail.

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    @frugby said in All Blacks 2025:

    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

    @frugby said in All Blacks 2025:

    I get the vibe there is a whole crew of Aucklanders who are willing him on to fail, which I find really weird

    I find it really weird that's the vibe you get.

    Lol usually when you have mixed results as ABs coach you get criticized right?

    Foster got criticised for breathing by most of the country.

    You can criticise Razor for last year, but criticising a squad which hasn’t even been picked yet to me says you want the guy to fail.

    Me personally criticising a squad that hasn't been picked yet or Aucklanders in general? Because personally, I haven't really said anything in regards to ABs selection yet. Last year, yes, this year, I've barely made a comment so far.

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    I suspect those that want Razor to fail are the marginal 'fans' that are not unlike those who wanted Henry to fail after ousting Deans.

    Vast majority of fans want him to succeed, want him to return us to the top of the pile, and last year, he made it hard with some calls many saw as bias or bonkers, there will always be some provincial lines that blur calls too.

    I'd say this year will give us a much better picture of whether he is upto the task or not, if we cant start to climb back up after the slide that started around 2016/2017, might be time to start supporting the Warriors.... 😉

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    Here's something to criticise/discuss. 🙂

    Marc Hinton and Paul Cully selected their AB team to play now. They've taken different approaches with JB, and there is some provincial bias. Neither chose Tele'a.

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    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

    Here's something to criticise/discuss. 🙂

    Marc Hinton and Paul Cully selected their AB team to play now. They've taken different approaches with JB, and there is some provincial bias. Neither chose Tele'a.

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    Marc Hinton is actually @Bones

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    @frugby said in All Blacks 2025:

    I don’t know why people can’t comprehend that just picking 15 new players isn’t a good idea

    Nice straw man argument. Who has suggested 15 new players?

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    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

    @frugby said in All Blacks 2025:

    I don’t know why people can’t comprehend that just picking 15 new players isn’t a good idea

    Nice straw man argument. Who has suggested 15 new players?

    My point more generally, is in my opinion, people are going overboard. The All Blacks issues are personnel problems, particularly in the loose forwards. We lack a big enforcer… we are crying out for a player like Harry Wilson. We lack an elite first five… McKenzie isn’t that, but he is probably the best we have - there’s no depth either.

    We’re talking about fine margins here, and at the moment we don’t have the solutions… switching Ioane for Billy Proctor for example, in my opinion, wouldn’t make a difference, but if it did, it would be minimal.

    Trying new players in certain positions probably makes us worse - not better.

    Barring injuries, of the ABs XV who played France, is there anyone obvious who moves the needle on that team? Ruben Love is another example here. Might he be a good option if Jordan is to play on the wing? Maybe, but he hasn’t shown a level at Super Rugby to suggest he is a world-beater.

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    @Bovidae I don't like either of those teams.

    I assume they have left out Wallace Sititi because he has been injured. DMac and Samipeni Finau are two other obvious names that they've both overlooked.

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    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:

    I can kinda see what they like about Fihaki, but gee, it is a pretty long shot hoping he is the rough diamond they see vs a lump of coal.

    Seems like Lolagi Visinia II

    Big boot, big frame, occasional good stuff but way too many errors. He shouldn't be a starter in a SR side

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    African Monkey
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    @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:

    I can kinda see what they like about Fihaki, but gee, it is a pretty long shot hoping he is the rough diamond they see vs a lump of coal.

    Seems like Lolagi Visinia II

    Big boot, big frame, occasional good stuff but way too many errors. He shouldn't be a starter in a SR side

    And Fihaki's defence is still a concern for me.

    Hoskins Sotutu's massive hail Mary wouldn't have been talked about if Fihaki didn't burst out of the line and leave a massive gap for AJ Lam to stroll through, and that's to go with the other defensive errors he's made.

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    @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

    I assume they have left out Wallace Sititi because he has been injured.

    Yes.

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    Fihaki will be in all black squad ,done deal, don't agree at all but just the way it is.

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