Crusaders v Blues
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@KiwiMurph said in Crusaders v Blues:
@Machpants said in Crusaders v Blues:
@KiwiMurph said in Crusaders v Blues:
Players who stood out to me
Five from Saders and Four from Blues come to mind
Lio Willie
Havili
Tamaiti
Newell
ScooterLam
Beehre
Sotutu
ZarnSullivan? That I don't see
Was money under the high ball - I guess I'm factoring in he's played fuck all rugby in the last 12 months
His defenders beaten stats might look promising too.
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@Steven-Harris said in Crusaders v Blues:
@Canes4life we are quick to put the boot into certain players but the lack of improvement from a player thats played close to 70 internationals is alarming
You just can’t make excuses for Reiko anymore unless he goes back to the wingHe could have been one of our greatest wingers, should have stayed there.
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I stuck $50 on the Blues at halftime after picking up Tamaiti Williams as the first try scorer
But I just had that niggly feeling when the Blues went ahead they would’not have the ability to close it out so I stuck $50 on the Saders at $2.80
A draw would have been a bad result for me -
The Crusaders this season have just been the opposite of last year. Where every little thing seemed to go against them last year, it seems this year things are falling for them. I remain unconvinced that they can win the title playing like this, but it is becoming increasingly clear that there is no standout side in this competition, which should make for a great end to the season, and what will probably be the most exciting/unpredictable finals series in ten years.
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@Canes4life 💯..why can’t some of the best coaches see the pictures we are seeing
Maybe Leinster will throw him a life line and throw him on the wing -
@Steven-Harris said in Crusaders v Blues:
A draw would have been a bad result for me
Is there no golden point anymore?
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@Steven-Harris said in Crusaders v Blues:
@Canes4life 💯..why can’t some of the best coaches see the pictures we are seeing
Same reason Christie keeps starting and was an AB as recently as last year?
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@frugby said in Crusaders v Blues:
This Rieko should have stayed on the wing narrative is using an incredibly short memory. He moved into the midfield after being dropped for George fucking Bridge... that tells you how well he was playing on the edge.
Well that's somewhat misleading. He had a leg injury that never came right in 2019 - which is why he looked all sorts of rubbish even on the wing.
2020 he was back to his full fitness but had moved to 13 by then
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@akan004 If Holland played for the Blues, and Beehre played for the Highlanders, this wouldn't even be a conversation.
Beehre looks a good player for the future, but he has got some bulking out to do. Certainly does more around the field than Josh Lord ever has though.
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@akan004 said in Crusaders v Blues:
Beehre must be getting close to a black jersey. I would pick him ahead of Holland.
Or have both and pick them over Lord. Problem solved.
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@frugby said in Crusaders v Blues:
@akan004 If Holland played for the Blues, and Beehre played for the Highlanders, this wouldn't even be a conversation.
Beehre looks a good player for the future, but he has got some bulking out to do. Certainly does more around the field than Josh Lord ever has though.
Holland and Beehre are completely different players, though: Holland has a dominant defensive profile while Beehre's stand-out quality is his ability to make metres in attack. They wouldn't be competing for the same spot.
Neither are particularly dominant lineout players.
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@Stag said in Crusaders v Blues:
In reality the Crusaders aren’t playing any better than they did last year, just getting a bit more luck. They will come unstuck in a big way if they don’t start improving soon.
Who’s consistently playing better than them? Where do they sit on the table?
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@Mauss said in Crusaders v Blues:
@frugby said in Crusaders v Blues:
@akan004 If Holland played for the Blues, and Beehre played for the Highlanders, this wouldn't even be a conversation.
Beehre looks a good player for the future, but he has got some bulking out to do. Certainly does more around the field than Josh Lord ever has though.
Holland and Beehre are completely different players, though: Holland has a dominant defensive profile while Beehre's stand-out quality is his ability to make metres in attack. They wouldn't be competing for the same spot.
Neither are particularly dominant lineout players.
That is pretty much what the stats suggest, though Holland is a defensive lineout threat (4 Steals)... I suspect in a better side, Holland would look way more dominant. Beehre to me still looks a little lightweight for the style of player that he is.
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@Darth-Sader said in Crusaders v Blues:
@Stag said in Crusaders v Blues:
In reality the Crusaders aren’t playing any better than they did last year, just getting a bit more luck. They will come unstuck in a big way if they don’t start improving soon.
Who’s consistently playing better than them? Where do they sit on the table?
Crusaders are undoubtedly better than they were last year. As the Blues are much worse. The addition of JOC and form of Hotham have definitely made a substantial difference. The bounce of the ball is coming their way more than last year.
I'd also suggest the competition is more equal. I don't think that they're playing clearly better than everyone else though and not well enough yet I'd back them to win the comp.
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@frugby said in Crusaders v Blues:
@Mauss said in Crusaders v Blues:
@frugby said in Crusaders v Blues:
@akan004 If Holland played for the Blues, and Beehre played for the Highlanders, this wouldn't even be a conversation.
Beehre looks a good player for the future, but he has got some bulking out to do. Certainly does more around the field than Josh Lord ever has though.
Holland and Beehre are completely different players, though: Holland has a dominant defensive profile while Beehre's stand-out quality is his ability to make metres in attack. They wouldn't be competing for the same spot.
Neither are particularly dominant lineout players.
That is pretty much what the stats suggest, though Holland is a defensive lineout threat (4 Steals)... I suspect in a better side, Holland would look way more dominant. Beehre to me still looks a little lightweight for the style of player that he is.
I don't see that with Beehre at all - he seems to me to be right up at the top ball in hand, always impressed at his drive.