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    @Machpants didn't WR change the hosting model post 2011, that had the same model been in place in 2011 NZR would have made more coin

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    @taniwharugby said in How to rank this RWC?:

    @Machpants didn't WR change the hosting model post 2011, that had the same model been in place in 2011 NZR would have made more coin

    I don't know. I seem to remember us paying less than France did in 2007

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    @taniwharugby said in How to rank this RWC?:

    didn't WR change the hosting model post 2011, that had the same model been in place in 2011 NZR would have made more coin

    No. The host fee went up in 2015, and up again in '19 and '23.

    The 'step change' was really between 2003 and the RWCs that came after. It is from 2007 onwards that the IRB put in place a hosting fee upfront.

    The 'more coin' part probably bubbling away somewhere in the back of TR's memory, would be a comparison to the old model. E.g. NZRU would have made a NZD$78 million dollar profit in 2011 using the 2003 model, rather than the NZD $30 million loss (of which $20mil was covered by govt).

    But, then .rolling forward ..... it would beggar belief to apply that same thinking to the profits England, Japan , France could have subsequently made using the same model, at the expense of the central WR/IRB profit,

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    @taniwharugby said in How to rank this RWC?:

    @Machpants didn't WR change the hosting model post 2011, that had the same model been in place in 2011 NZR would have made more coin

    I don't know. I seem to remember us paying less than France did in 2007

    The 2007 and 2011 hosting fees were the same.

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    But, in 2023 France voluntarily upped that £120 million to £150 million to outbid their rivals (and IIRC that extra £30 million was to buy out the corporate, or travel? parts of the income that WR usually retain?)

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    @Rapido said in How to rank this RWC?:

    The 2007 and 2011 hosting fees were the same.

    Yeah I think it was supposed to increase by WR didn't do that

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    i was under the impression that 2027 in Aus, the ARU had a guaranteed payout, and the profits all go to WR?

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    @mariner4life said in How to rank this RWC?:

    i was under the impression that 2027 in Aus, the ARU had a guaranteed payout, and the profits all go to WR?

    Correct, that's why I mentioned that AR have already made a profit on '27

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    @Rapido that sounds about right...knew there was some change and figures bandied about...memory ain't what it used to be....

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