Movie review thread...
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@No-Quarter said in Movie review thread...:
Seagal movies were great, watching Under Siege with Erika Eleniak is a memory that stands out from when I was young.
Not sure that's because of Steven's acting... 👁️👁️
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@MN5 said in Movie review thread...:
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@MiketheSnow said in Movie review thread...:
@MN5 said in Movie review thread...:
To further add to the Arnie circle jerk…..
I can’t believe people mention Sly as a serious rival.
Arnie has an X factor SS could only dream of
It’s not even close.
Sly has been in some tremendous movies and deserves his place on the Mt Rushmore of Action
Rocky I, II. III, IV
Paradise Alley
First Blood
Tango & Cash
Cliffhanger
Judge Dredd
Cop Land
Get Carter
Creed
Tulsa KingYep, no need to throw shade at Sly to raise Arnie up.
You didn't eveh include Escape to Victory where he held his own acting with pro soccer players.
His best flick was Demolition Man.
Really? No love for Rambo or Rocky?
Edit: ah I see there is some above.
The 80s and 90s were fertile ground for action stars. Arnie and Sly, Bruce Willis, Van Damme, Lundgren, Norris. All at a time when people didn't spend hours on social media unpicking plot lines and stuff. We just enjoyed the films. What a time to grow up
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@canefan said in Movie review thread...:
@MN5 said in Movie review thread...:
@Nepia said in Movie review thread...:
@MiketheSnow said in Movie review thread...:
@MN5 said in Movie review thread...:
To further add to the Arnie circle jerk…..
I can’t believe people mention Sly as a serious rival.
Arnie has an X factor SS could only dream of
It’s not even close.
Sly has been in some tremendous movies and deserves his place on the Mt Rushmore of Action
Rocky I, II. III, IV
Paradise Alley
First Blood
Tango & Cash
Cliffhanger
Judge Dredd
Cop Land
Get Carter
Creed
Tulsa KingYep, no need to throw shade at Sly to raise Arnie up.
You didn't eveh include Escape to Victory where he held his own acting with pro soccer players.
His best flick was Demolition Man.
Really? No love for Rambo or Rocky?
Edit: ah I see there is some above.
The 80s and 90s were fertile ground for action stars. Arnie and Sly, Bruce Willis, Van Damme, Lundgren, Norris. All at a time when people didn't spend hours on social media unpicking plot lines and stuff. We just enjoyed the films. What a time to grow up
Fine movies but to me not a patch on Arnie at his best.
I loved Demolition Man cos it was just great fun satire. Wesley Snipes was awesome but then so was Sly as foil to him.
I've never seen Cop Land but have heard good things, could definitely argue Sly is a better actor than Arnie based on that.
If you count Bruce Willis then you'd have to throw Harrison Ford in as well. SW, IJ and Blade Runner......
Despite all the memes I haven't seen a lot of Chucks movies but they certainly have a bit of a B Grade feel compared to others.
JCVD and Lundgren never really captivated me despite being athletic freaks. The latter was obviously hugely memorable in Rocky to be fair.
Stephen Seagal is an unpleasant ass who had overly choreographed fight scenes designed to make him look amazing. I'm not sure I've ever seen him take a single punch to the face. Of every guy in this list he is also the only one who completely lacks any sort of self deprecating humour.
.....Clint and to an extent Charles Bronson and Jack Palance created the formula in the 70s that the 80s then ran with.
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@No-Quarter said in Movie review thread...:
Seagal movies were great, watching Under Siege with Erika Eleniak is a memory that stands out from when I was young.
IMHO Under Siege is easily the best of all those one man army taking out hordes of bad guys who take over a ship/plane/building films. It was sadly all downhill from there for Weird Steve.
One thing I'll give Arnie and Sly is that they actually did become better actors. They weren't just muscles and mindless action after a while. I actually think Peak Arnie is Twins. Just incredible charisma and presence.
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Terminator - he was perfect.
Copland is good in that kind of wow he can put on weight and play characters! sort of way...
But I really liked Sly in that old film pre Rocky where his onscreen brother was the boxer - can't remember name.
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I'm going to take back my Terminator comment, how could a super swaggering heavily muscled thick Austrian accented expressionless lug of a man fit in with the scurrying human survivors?
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@nostrildamus said in Movie review thread...:
Terminator - he was perfect.
Copland is good in that kind of wow he can put on weight and play characters! sort of way...
But I really liked Sly in that old film pre Rocky where his onscreen brother was the boxer - can't remember name.
Paradise Alley? Wrestling?
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@MiketheSnow said in Movie review thread...:
Paradise Alley?
yes! and wrestling, that's it! But for some reason after 3 decades I thought it was boxing -- still remember the scene he carries ice upstairs...gee, reading reviews now they just didn't like it. Maybe my memory is bad.
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@nostrildamus said in Movie review thread...:
@MiketheSnow said in Movie review thread...:
Paradise Alley?
yes! and wrestling, that's it! But for some reason after 3 decades I thought it was boxing -- still remember the scene he carries ice upstairs...gee, reading reviews now they just didn't like it. Maybe my memory is bad.
I loved it. Still do. Watched it a couple of years ago.
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@MiketheSnow said in Movie review thread...:
@nostrildamus said in Movie review thread...:
@MiketheSnow said in Movie review thread...:
Paradise Alley?
yes! and wrestling, that's it! But for some reason after 3 decades I thought it was boxing -- still remember the scene he carries ice upstairs...gee, reading reviews now they just didn't like it. Maybe my memory is bad.
I loved it. Still do. Watched it a couple of years ago.
Thank you. I have just been reading about Lee Canalito's boxing career, 21-0, 19 KO. So in real-life he was a boxer after all. And a good one.
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@nostrildamus said in Movie review thread...:
I'm going to take back my Terminator comment, how could a super swaggering heavily muscled thick Austrian accented expressionless lug of a man fit in with the scurrying human survivors?
Don't quote me as I've only seen it around 50 times but wasn't the Arnie model designed to fit in with humans in the 80s ? Pro Wrestling was at it's peak so steroid jacked monoliths were much more common in California then.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Movie review thread...:
@No-Quarter said in Movie review thread...:
Seagal movies were great, watching Under Siege with Erika Eleniak is a memory that stands out from when I was young.
IMHO Under Siege is easily the best of all those one man army taking out hordes of bad guys who take over a ship/plane/building films. It was sadly all downhill from there for Weird Steve.
One thing I'll give Arnie and Sly is that they actually did become better actors. They weren't just muscles and mindless action after a while. I actually think Peak Arnie is Twins. Just incredible charisma and presence.
Yeah fair call, Under Seige is a good action flick. Seagal doesn't make things fun like other action stars do though.
Arnie and Danny De Vito had magnificent chemistry in Twins, it's one that stands up well today.
I agree that Sly became better and ( don't laugh ) but so did Dolph.
Pretty poignant scene here....
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@W32 said in Movie review thread...:
Worth a watch. Starts badly
Loved it
He did a a couple more around the same time that were harder edged than his usual fare
All three recommended
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@MiketheSnow said in Movie review thread...:
@W32 said in Movie review thread...:
Worth a watch. Starts badly
Loved it
He did a a couple more around the same time that were harder edged than his usual fare
All three recommended
Yeah completely surprised me. Vince Vaughn sp? is awesome.
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@MN5 said in Movie review thread...:
@nostrildamus said in Movie review thread...:
I'm going to take back my Terminator comment, how could a super swaggering heavily muscled thick Austrian accented expressionless lug of a man fit in with the scurrying human survivors?
Don't quote me as I've only seen it around 50 times but wasn't the Arnie model designed to fit in with humans in the 80s ? Pro Wrestling was at it's peak so steroid jacked monoliths were much more common in California then.
Yes but why then an Austrian accent? And wasn't there a scene of an Armie like figure lumbering around a future battlefield? Even in the 80s setting he stuck out like a Germanic sausage.. T2 far more believable ... Very nondescript...
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@nostrildamus said in Movie review thread...:
@MN5 said in Movie review thread...:
@nostrildamus said in Movie review thread...:
I'm going to take back my Terminator comment, how could a super swaggering heavily muscled thick Austrian accented expressionless lug of a man fit in with the scurrying human survivors?
Don't quote me as I've only seen it around 50 times but wasn't the Arnie model designed to fit in with humans in the 80s ? Pro Wrestling was at it's peak so steroid jacked monoliths were much more common in California then.
Yes but why then an Austrian accent? And wasn't there a scene of an Armie like figure lumbering around a future battlefield? Even in the 80s setting he stuck out like a Germanic sausage.. T2 far more believable ... Very nondescript...
Like most things, there's a perfectly logical explnation