All Blacks v France
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sometimes quantity IS quality
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@Mauss said in All Blacks v France:
The variation works, as Ramos is caught in no man’s land, allowing Ioane to put McKenzie into space who still has Jordan on the outside.
Bielle-Biarrey seems fixed but isn’t.The only thing that saves France is Bielle-Biarrey’s ability to act as two defenders at the same time. First, he is in position to make a tackle-assist on McKenzie but as soon as the latter passes to Jordan, he uses his incredible pace to shut down the space in the corner. Jordan is unable to finish against the French scramble defence and the AB trump card, the Hurricane lineout strike, is successfully foiled.
.For me, while I agree I also think if Jordan was more aware he gets into a better position to take that ball flatter (at pace), hence it doesn't have to be thrown so deep and easier for him to beat cover defence. He should have scored if he was good enough in my opinion
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks v France:
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks v France:
What was the point in subbing Roigard
I reckon it was fitness. He just doesn't have the miles in the legs to play at that level yet.
There was a play around the 46-47th minute that I thought he missed his assignment. Standard sort of play. Not a reason to get subbed, but I think they knew that short of injury or something else, they wanted/needed 50 solid minutes.
Cortez had more in his tank. He’s had some lessons over the last couple of months. The highs and lows of test footy and playing very well (with little expectation as a NKOTB) to closing out a big test in a hostile atmosphere.
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@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v France:
I think the above is why they are sniffing around Fihaki. He brings some attributes that Stevenson brings, but without the lazy looking brain farts. Don't get me wrong, I don't like the idea of Fihaki in the ABs but I can see the attraction.
I'm not writing him off, but I've just not seen anything to make me think he should be in the frame, apart from having a decent sized err... frame. He looks athletic, but what has he produced?
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@booboo said in All Blacks v France:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v France:
I think the above is why they are sniffing around Fihaki. He brings some attributes that Stevenson brings, but without the lazy looking brain farts. Don't get me wrong, I don't like the idea of Fihaki in the ABs but I can see the attraction.
I'm not writing him off, but I've just not seen anything to make me think he should be in the frame, apart from having a decent sized err... frame. He looks athletic, but what has he produced?
He has the tools, is big, has pace, a good punt, and can kick goals.
However, we've yet to really see those at NPC level let alone Super level.
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@bayimports said in All Blacks v France:
@Mauss said in All Blacks v France:
The variation works, as Ramos is caught in no man’s land, allowing Ioane to put McKenzie into space who still has Jordan on the outside.
Bielle-Biarrey seems fixed but isn’t.The only thing that saves France is Bielle-Biarrey’s ability to act as two defenders at the same time. First, he is in position to make a tackle-assist on McKenzie but as soon as the latter passes to Jordan, he uses his incredible pace to shut down the space in the corner. Jordan is unable to finish against the French scramble defence and the AB trump card, the Hurricane lineout strike, is successfully foiled.
.For me, while I agree I also think if Jordan was more aware he gets into a better position to take that ball flatter (at pace), hence it doesn't have to be thrown so deep and easier for him to beat cover defence. He should have scored if he was good enough in my opinion
My first impression was why's he so deep?
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@bayimports said in All Blacks v France:
For me, while I agree I also think if Jordan was more aware he gets into a better position to take that ball flatter (at pace), hence it doesn't have to be thrown so deep and easier for him to beat cover defence. He should have scored if he was good enough in my opinion
Yeah, he seemed to be a little hesitant to fully commit to the attack. It's like he was watching whether the secondary arrow would work rather than just focussing on his own task.
It's something that reappears quite a lot when looking at AB lineout strikes across the Test season. Just that little lack of detail. In this particular move as well, Ratima is taking Lakai's pass standing still. While the whole point of the strike move is to have the entire backline in movement, so the defence has to take the threat of the running 9 into account as well. That wasn't the case here. It makes it just that little bit easier to defend.
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That word "detail".comes up a lot
My impression is we still play rugby on vibes rather than details
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks v France:
That word "detail".comes up a lot
My impression is we still play rugby on vibes rather than details
I do think that's true when it comes to detail around stuff like timing, running lines, and skill execution. There's too many players who are missing their cues, resulting in handling errors and breakdown turnovers.
Robertson likes to call these "missed opportunities" but it's up to the coaches to sort that out.
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There's that, theres the kick off's, the exits. We're good but not great.
I am convinced our midfield srt up is getting the worst out of both our starting midfielders
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks v France:
There's that, theres the kick off's, the exits. We're good but not great.
I am convinced our midfield srt up is getting the worst out of both our starting midfielders
They never seen to have any time or space, just enough to crash it up
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For all the talk against Ioane as a centre watch the French go-ahead try
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks v France:
For all the talk against Ioane as a centre watch the French go-ahead try
The short ball he hits Vaai with is perfect.I swear people who complain about his distribution are watching with their heads shoved firmly up their own arseholes. The major problem is he isn't being given the ball in space to do much, if anything, with.
When he does have space and time he makes good decisions.
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@Smuts said in All Blacks v France:
@Mauss agree with @nostrildamus this is high quality and totally against the spirit of the bored
I wasn’t bored
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@MiketheSnow that’s more like it
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@Billy-Tell said in All Blacks v France:
@stodders said in All Blacks v France:
@Billy-Webb Most probably. Apologies @Billy-Tell. I got my Billys mixed up
To tell the truth you’re sort of correct. My dad was South African but moved to NZ in the 1970s where he met my kiwi mum. At that period, when you became kiwi you had to relinquish SA citizenship which my dad did (willingly). He considers himself a kiwi through and through and has lived more of his life in NZ than SA. As for me Kiwi + Swiss (through marriage). But yeah billy Webb. That guy can’t use a crossbow to save himself.
Hahaha. Touché.
I am more of a shotgun guy really.
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I am finally getting to watch the game and it is so incredibly different to the match thread. Sure BB lacked impact, Reece wasn't fast, the halfbacks had some struggles but the French were very good, fit, strong on the carry if not particularly imaginative, defensively powerful, had faster wings, and played the ref far better than us. They still looked pretty scared at times out there.
Gee, the Mighty Williams, Sititi and Vaa'i had good games, SB had some good touches but he seems less dynamic these days, Savea looked more engaged at 6/7 in the open than he has been at 8. DMac sparked more than BB to my mind. Jordan wasn't crap, just not his normal flukey self, and suddenly doesn't look fast up against the French backline.
We could have used Clarke better as well.
There were some neck-high tackles, playing on the ground, and interesting interpretations of onside by the French but hey if the ref doesn't notice them..Oh and our midfield has no incisive ability, worsening when JB went off, yes it was obvious.
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That drop by Ioane, coachkiller.
