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    @Kruse To be fair to kiwiinmelb, that's pretty much the gist of it. And you could ask yourself, why write 2,443 words when 47 could suffice?

    Then again, I'm personally more of a quantity-over-quality kinda guy.

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    @Mauss said in All Blacks v France:

    @Kruse To be fair to kiwiinmelb, that's pretty much the gist of it. And you could ask yourself, why write 2,443 words when 47 could suffice?

    Then again, I'm personally more of a quantity-over-quality kinda guy.

    I love both extremes.
    I have heard several times at work somebody reference a "Kruse-style write-up" - meaning an absurd amount of content/explanation/context - informational Shock-and-Awe to prematurely cut off any questions except from idiots.
    But also "Kruse-level pith" - usually expressing contempt.

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    @Kruse I’m not sure if I’m quite so in control with my responses to things. When watching the game on Saturday, I was curious about the ABs’ use of their lineouts. Next thing you know, I’m watching Hurricanes lineouts from 2022 and looking up how to link timestamps on YouTube videos.

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    @Mauss said in All Blacks v France:

    Then again, I'm personally more of a quantity-over-quality kinda guy.

    So's @Kruse. At least when it comes to movies.

    Booze he goes for the double act.

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    sometimes quantity IS quality

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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks v France:

    sometimes quantity IS quality

    you sound like my wife

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    @Mauss said in All Blacks v France:

    The variation works, as Ramos is caught in no man’s land, allowing Ioane to put McKenzie into space who still has Jordan on the outside.

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    Bielle-Biarrey seems fixed but isn’t.

    The only thing that saves France is Bielle-Biarrey’s ability to act as two defenders at the same time. First, he is in position to make a tackle-assist on McKenzie but as soon as the latter passes to Jordan, he uses his incredible pace to shut down the space in the corner. Jordan is unable to finish against the French scramble defence and the AB trump card, the Hurricane lineout strike, is successfully foiled.
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    For me, while I agree I also think if Jordan was more aware he gets into a better position to take that ball flatter (at pace), hence it doesn't have to be thrown so deep and easier for him to beat cover defence. He should have scored if he was good enough in my opinion

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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks v France:

    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks v France:

    What was the point in subbing Roigard

    I reckon it was fitness. He just doesn't have the miles in the legs to play at that level yet.

    There was a play around the 46-47th minute that I thought he missed his assignment. Standard sort of play. Not a reason to get subbed, but I think they knew that short of injury or something else, they wanted/needed 50 solid minutes.

    Cortez had more in his tank. He’s had some lessons over the last couple of months. The highs and lows of test footy and playing very well (with little expectation as a NKOTB) to closing out a big test in a hostile atmosphere.

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    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v France:

    I think the above is why they are sniffing around Fihaki. He brings some attributes that Stevenson brings, but without the lazy looking brain farts. Don't get me wrong, I don't like the idea of Fihaki in the ABs but I can see the attraction.

    I'm not writing him off, but I've just not seen anything to make me think he should be in the frame, apart from having a decent sized err... frame. He looks athletic, but what has he produced?

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    @booboo said in All Blacks v France:

    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v France:

    I think the above is why they are sniffing around Fihaki. He brings some attributes that Stevenson brings, but without the lazy looking brain farts. Don't get me wrong, I don't like the idea of Fihaki in the ABs but I can see the attraction.

    I'm not writing him off, but I've just not seen anything to make me think he should be in the frame, apart from having a decent sized err... frame. He looks athletic, but what has he produced?

    He has the tools, is big, has pace, a good punt, and can kick goals.
    However, we've yet to really see those at NPC level let alone Super level.
    I'm actually a fan but I think this was a terrible selection.

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    @bayimports said in All Blacks v France:

    @Mauss said in All Blacks v France:

    The variation works, as Ramos is caught in no man’s land, allowing Ioane to put McKenzie into space who still has Jordan on the outside.

    09f753d6-5d50-4ef6-9b9a-4da5d8b291c7-image.png
    Bielle-Biarrey seems fixed but isn’t.

    The only thing that saves France is Bielle-Biarrey’s ability to act as two defenders at the same time. First, he is in position to make a tackle-assist on McKenzie but as soon as the latter passes to Jordan, he uses his incredible pace to shut down the space in the corner. Jordan is unable to finish against the French scramble defence and the AB trump card, the Hurricane lineout strike, is successfully foiled.
    .

    For me, while I agree I also think if Jordan was more aware he gets into a better position to take that ball flatter (at pace), hence it doesn't have to be thrown so deep and easier for him to beat cover defence. He should have scored if he was good enough in my opinion

    My first impression was why's he so deep?

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    @bayimports said in All Blacks v France:

    For me, while I agree I also think if Jordan was more aware he gets into a better position to take that ball flatter (at pace), hence it doesn't have to be thrown so deep and easier for him to beat cover defence. He should have scored if he was good enough in my opinion

    Yeah, he seemed to be a little hesitant to fully commit to the attack. It's like he was watching whether the secondary arrow would work rather than just focussing on his own task.

    It's something that reappears quite a lot when looking at AB lineout strikes across the Test season. Just that little lack of detail. In this particular move as well, Ratima is taking Lakai's pass standing still. While the whole point of the strike move is to have the entire backline in movement, so the defence has to take the threat of the running 9 into account as well. That wasn't the case here. It makes it just that little bit easier to defend.

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    That word "detail".comes up a lot

    My impression is we still play rugby on vibes rather than details

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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks v France:

    That word "detail".comes up a lot

    My impression is we still play rugby on vibes rather than details

    I do think that's true when it comes to detail around stuff like timing, running lines, and skill execution. There's too many players who are missing their cues, resulting in handling errors and breakdown turnovers.

    Robertson likes to call these "missed opportunities" but it's up to the coaches to sort that out.

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    There's that, theres the kick off's, the exits. We're good but not great.

    I am convinced our midfield srt up is getting the worst out of both our starting midfielders

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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks v France:

    There's that, theres the kick off's, the exits. We're good but not great.

    I am convinced our midfield srt up is getting the worst out of both our starting midfielders

    They never seen to have any time or space, just enough to crash it up

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    For all the talk against Ioane as a centre watch the French go-ahead try
    The short ball he hits Vaai with is perfect.

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    @mariner4life said in All Blacks v France:

    For all the talk against Ioane as a centre watch the French go-ahead try
    The short ball he hits Vaai with is perfect.

    I swear people who complain about his distribution are watching with their heads shoved firmly up their own arseholes. The major problem is he isn't being given the ball in space to do much, if anything, with.

    When he does have space and time he makes good decisions.

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    @Smuts said in All Blacks v France:

    @Mauss agree with @nostrildamus this is high quality and totally against the spirit of the bored

    I wasn’t bored

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    @MiketheSnow that’s more like it

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