All Blacks v France
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@Chris said in All Blacks v France:
@MN5 said in All Blacks v France:
@Chris said in All Blacks v France:
@DMX said in All Blacks v France:
Rees, Jordan and Ratimer were all terrible.
You can add Ratima to that as well he was shit again.
So was Reece
Well I agreed with that if you read it I added Ratima to those 3 so your point is ?.
Was adding Reece cos I’m not sure who Rees is, some Welsh import ?
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@MN5 said in All Blacks v France:
@Chris said in All Blacks v France:
@MN5 said in All Blacks v France:
@Chris said in All Blacks v France:
@DMX said in All Blacks v France:
Rees, Jordan and Ratimer were all terrible.
You can add Ratima to that as well he was shit again.
So was Reece
Well I agreed with that if you read it I added Ratima to those 3 so your point is ?.
Was adding Reece cos I’m not sure who Rees is, some Welsh import ?
Hahaha
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We deserve to lose for this fucking soft go for 3 to be losing by 1 with 5 minutes left decision.
The moment was right there for them to step up, execute and win the game but they weren't up for it.
They got the result they chose. No ambition. I fucking hate this mindset in Int. Rugby and makes me want to tune out until Super Rugby starts again.
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@darylmitchell We went for it right after we made the kick and went up the field from our 22 for a chance to win the game and blew it.
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@Jet said in All Blacks v France:
I can understand the reservations about Jordan, but im not having Beaudy back there either.
Fuck that carry on. Give me Jordan any day.
To be fair to will he got mullered a few times but never shied away from taking it into contact.
Ruben Love deserves his shot (no Perofeta please)
Very quick and probably less mistake prone.
He could have finished most or all of those tries Jordan scored this season. -
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks v France:
Increasingly noticeable for me how 10 and 15 aren't prepared in Super rugby in certain areas for the international level, such as kicking.
How was Beaudens super form? Even if he were learning those skills at international level he has enough caps to have nailed them.
McKenzie kicks often and long for the Chiefs, with Stevenson doing the same. -
@darylmitchell said in All Blacks v France:
We deserve to lose for this fucking soft go for 3 to be losing by 1 with 5 minutes left decision.
The moment was right there for them to step up, execute and win the game but they weren't up for it.
They got the result they chose. No ambition. I fucking hate this mindset in Int. Rugby and makes me want to tune out until Super Rugby starts again.
Just watched the PC and Scott Barrett pretty much admitted that he made the wrong call to go for 3. Refs rarely penalise teams in the dying minutes, especially the home side so we were always going to need to score a try to beat them anyway. Had to go for the corner.
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@kpkanz said in All Blacks v France:
@darylmitchell We went for it right after we made the kick and went up the field from our 22 for a chance to win the game and blew it.
Was expecting them to go for corner. With a load of penalties being conceded they might have bet on getting another or setting up for a drop goal. With 6mins remaining that's potentially enough to secure an additional 3.
Separately you need your forwards to be confident about the corner, if there's a hint of any kind that isn't the case for whatever reason (e.g. fatigue, injury, fear of giving away penalty) the 10 should go for the sticks.
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@kpkanz said in All Blacks v France:
@brodean said in All Blacks v France:
@Nepia said in All Blacks v France:
Weird that I'm not as upset as I should be with this loss.
Rightly or wrongly we just don't have the same expectations for the ABs
There's a difference to the way we lost compared to the last regime.
We weren't good enough to win in other ways?
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@brodean said in All Blacks v France:
@kpkanz said in All Blacks v France:
@brodean said in All Blacks v France:
@Nepia said in All Blacks v France:
Weird that I'm not as upset as I should be with this loss.
Rightly or wrongly we just don't have the same expectations for the ABs
There's a difference to the way we lost compared to the last regime.
We weren't good enough to win in other ways?
I'm saying there's a big difference when you are clearly the inferior team and being outplayed the entire game with no chance of winning (like our last 2 games against France before today).
And today where we dominated and blew it from not converting.
There's a BIG difference.
It's not as black and white as 'we won/lost'.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks v France:
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks v France:
What was the point in subbing Roigard
I reckon it was fitness. He just doesn't have the miles in the legs to play at that level yet.
I thought he was noticeably slower after the break.... I am a big fan of his and suspect you are right
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Having read this thread and unable to watch the game it generally appears to be only the AB squad and one famous French 9 were playing.
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@george33 said in All Blacks v France:
@Chris most disappointing thing that Razor said was Reece and Blackadder are made for test Rugby most likely case closed.
Does that automatically make any other player NOT made for test rugby by default ? I’m confused.
ie ‘Look Wallace, I’ll give you a crack at six cos Ethan got injured even though I’m really not convinced you’re up for Test Rugby….’
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@kpkanz said in All Blacks v France:
@Chris-B It's actually even worse because it actually paid off.
After the kick, we held the ball and then Dmac got us into their 22 with his break.
We had the ball hot on attack in their 22. At best score a try, or hold the ball and win a penalty to win the game.
So we actually had done all the hard work. Make the kick, and get back into their 22 attacking.
Then Beauden/Rieko screwed it up.
Just such a DUMB loss to a team we could have beat by 20 today.
BB never gets criticised in press for his kicking. It’s talked up as a tactical weapon. But we were making inroads with our carry and soft options that give the ball away are just stupid.
Reiko must drop the ball more than any other centre that has played for NZ. Great player in so many ways but hitting the line at 100 miles an hour doesn’t matter if you don’t secure the ball. The crash ball is a shit option for us at the moment.
