All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham
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@reprobate said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
spend some time there ball in hand
To be honest, that's pretty much exactly what Jason Holland said during the halftime interview - "We'll look to make England make some tackles when we got the ball" - so Barrett might have gone a bit off script at times.
I still think the kick-option was on in the second example. Gardner wasn't penalizing English transgressions so maybe Barrett felt they needed to score quickly off turnover ball. The real bad decision was his kick around halfway when it went dead: it was poor execution but also just not the right time for it.
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Are the All Blacks doomed to a 70% flatline?
Having been spoiled by the giants of the past, New Zealand have been caught up by the rest of the world.
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Looooool was that written by Razor's personal PR arm?
What a ridiculous fucking "article"
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@gt12 said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
Jesus, so Razor’s record is on Fozzie?
Fuck me days, the media was so up Razor’s ass now they have to pedal a new story when he comes in and doesn’t turn out to actually be the messiah.
Has Razor inherited a 22-man black hole?
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@Mauss said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@reprobate said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
I think the whole thing looks premeditated too if you look at Jordan and Jordie on the inside.
I do think this is a good point, same as what you say about a lack of patience. Personally I also think attacking kicks are better as part of a pre-meditated move rather than off counter-attack, as was the case here, as you need to catch the defence off guard in order to actually get a kick through.
Potentially thats the reason this was a grubber - the intention was more to kick toward space with a bit of pace, the desired result being either a defensive lineout 5 out or one of the the chasers regathering.
Pre-meditated and counter-attack aren't mutually exclusive, especially second phase counter-attack.
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@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@gt12 said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
Jesus, so Razor’s record is on Fozzie?
Fuck me days, the media was so up Razor’s ass now they have to pedal a new story when he comes in and doesn’t turn out to actually be the messiah.
Has Razor inherited a 22-man black hole?
We’ve already had the cantab mafia changing the tune from shit coaching to shit cattle, but this is another step forward using the Barry Schwartz approach (the secret to happiness is low expectations).
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@Mauss said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
I know there’s a lot of criticism on this forum towards the incessant turn to kicking by Barrett in this game, but, rewatching the game, I’d argue that the kick-option was the right choice a lot of the time, but it was Barrett’s mixed execution of his kicks which led to mixed outcomes.
Absolutely agree. I posted during the half time break that he was picking his moments pretty well but that there needed to be better execution.
IMO there were only two kicks that were ill advised and not only could he have put the ball through hands, when he did kick he advanced to the line and didn’t give himself space to even provide the opportunity to execute a better outcome.
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@booboo reckon we’re on similar pages.
attacker without the ball makes contact with a defender just standing his ground: penalty - obstruction
Defender moves off his line to tackle/or more often just shoulder charge a player without the ball running at a gap - penalty - tackling player without the ball
But not sure I love the bball charge analogy - rewards defenders who rush into the lane late and plant their feet with a penalty. That should just be play on - provided both players are not actively seeking contact
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@gt12 said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
Jesus, so Razor’s record is on Fozzie?
Fuck me days, the media was so up Razor’s ass now they have to pedal a new story when he comes in and doesn’t turn out to actually be the messiah.
Oh no, he is still the messiah. He just doesn't have the right
red and blackdisciples yet. -
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@ACT-Crusader only after your 7 year provincial reign as best coach in the world comes to an end.
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
@Bones said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
But is it?
Yes. In heaven.
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@Daffy-Jaffy Enjoyed that. Good stuff.
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks Vs England, Twickenham:
But is it?
Yeah, I think that attitude is there and is important to maintain, so good on England's players there. I think a bit of the PR is overdone, and some player (e.g.Sexton) don't seem to get the idea but it's a key part of the game.
