All Blacks vs Ireland
-
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@brodean said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@darylmitchell said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@darylmitchell said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
Interesting contrast of styles between the super structured Ireland, who are kind of more than the sum of their parts, and NZ, who never seem to be as good as their talent suggests.
Guys like Aki and Lowe couldn't make the ABs but are key pieces for Ireland. I wonder if the ABs would be better if they were more structured, or would it detract from the natural ability of our players. People in NZ are super critical of guys like Reiko, DMac and Mo'unga... But in a vacuum they are probably the best athletes and/or most talented players in their positions in the world. Why don't we get the best out of them?
Reiko is 105kgs, probably the fastest player in the squad, extreme acceleration. He's a much better athlete than guys like Kriel or Slade, maybe any 13... Dmac has the most speed of any 10, an awesome skillset, maybe the best catch pass of anyone, again a much better athlete than a Pollard or Sexton... Yet neither is anywhere near as productive on the field. Why?
I’d like to see some proof of that. Kriel looks like an extreme crossfitter.
Ioane is 8kgs heavier and 5cm taller than Kriel
So what ?
Are you seriously trying to suggest Kriel is a better athlete than Ioane?
Well I’m certainly disputing the statement that Ioane is apparently the greatest athlete playing rugby these days. Maybe ever ?
I thought the comment actually was "He's a much better athlete than guys like Kriel or Slade, maybe any 13"
So maybe we could list the biggest, fastest, heaviest, (and most agile?) 13s currently playing the game. I doubt Rieko is the most coordinated. And I gotta say Kriel has become a pretty handy 13 (arguably Am is better at 13, but I'd really like us to have a 12 like De Allende).
And possibly this guy will return to form (at 13?) https://www.aap.com.au/news/wallaby-kerevi-prepares-to-be-best-in-the-world-again/
We've got one coming through
Max Llewelyn
Son of former Wales lock Gareth Llewelyn196cm & 105kg
Too lanky to be a great athlete. Would need to be 112kg at least
-
@canefan said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
The players would have marked this one down as top priority I'd suspect
We may be able to catch Ireland cold as it is their first match for 4 months.
But we will need to see a huge improvement in discipline and accuracy if we are a chance to win this.
Got a feeling DMAC will produce the goods on Friday.
-
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@brodean said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@darylmitchell said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@darylmitchell said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
Interesting contrast of styles between the super structured Ireland, who are kind of more than the sum of their parts, and NZ, who never seem to be as good as their talent suggests.
Guys like Aki and Lowe couldn't make the ABs but are key pieces for Ireland. I wonder if the ABs would be better if they were more structured, or would it detract from the natural ability of our players. People in NZ are super critical of guys like Reiko, DMac and Mo'unga... But in a vacuum they are probably the best athletes and/or most talented players in their positions in the world. Why don't we get the best out of them?
Reiko is 105kgs, probably the fastest player in the squad, extreme acceleration. He's a much better athlete than guys like Kriel or Slade, maybe any 13... Dmac has the most speed of any 10, an awesome skillset, maybe the best catch pass of anyone, again a much better athlete than a Pollard or Sexton... Yet neither is anywhere near as productive on the field. Why?
I’d like to see some proof of that. Kriel looks like an extreme crossfitter.
Ioane is 8kgs heavier and 5cm taller than Kriel
So what ?
Are you seriously trying to suggest Kriel is a better athlete than Ioane?
Well I’m certainly disputing the statement that Ioane is apparently the greatest athlete playing rugby these days. Maybe ever ?
I thought the comment actually was "He's a much better athlete than guys like Kriel or Slade, maybe any 13"
So maybe we could list the biggest, fastest, heaviest, (and most agile?) 13s currently playing the game. I doubt Rieko is the most coordinated. And I gotta say Kriel has become a pretty handy 13 (arguably Am is better at 13, but I'd really like us to have a 12 like De Allende).
And possibly this guy will return to form (at 13?) https://www.aap.com.au/news/wallaby-kerevi-prepares-to-be-best-in-the-world-again/
We've got one coming through
Max Llewelyn
Son of former Wales lock Gareth Llewelyn196cm & 105kg
Too lanky to be a great athlete. Would need to be 112kg at least
Needs to be 113kg minimum.
-
Rob Kearney’s All Blacks verdict: ‘They're scared of Ireland now...’
Retired Ireland full-back believes Scott Robertson’s All Blacks have arrived in Dublin scared of the threat posed by Andy Farrell’s team.
-
@reprobate said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@brodean mauling is over-rated. With Aumua, Sititi, Tuipolotu, Tosi we have some decent close-in running options though.
I can see one of the hallmark of this team will be of big men always getting over the gainline and being hard to stop from that perspective.
Especially with Holland getting his debut next year, we could field a tight 5 that are all ball runners.
-
@KiwiMurph LOL , yeah am sure the allblacks are pretrified this week. Kearney is the same eijit who said before the quarter final last year not one single allblacks player was better than any Irish player
-
@Kiwidom said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@KiwiMurph LOL , yeah am sure the allblacks are pretrified this week. Kearney is the same eijit who said before the quarter final last year not one single allblacks player was better than any Irish player
Why would the All Blacks be scared of a team that's never made it further than a WC quarter-final? Kearny is a moron.
I really hope the ABs pull out their performance of the year and put these guys in their place. The Irish fans on social media are even worse than the English, they believe their own hype and are still dining out on that test series win in New Zealand which now feels like a decade ago.
-
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@brodean said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@darylmitchell said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@darylmitchell said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
Interesting contrast of styles between the super structured Ireland, who are kind of more than the sum of their parts, and NZ, who never seem to be as good as their talent suggests.
Guys like Aki and Lowe couldn't make the ABs but are key pieces for Ireland. I wonder if the ABs would be better if they were more structured, or would it detract from the natural ability of our players. People in NZ are super critical of guys like Reiko, DMac and Mo'unga... But in a vacuum they are probably the best athletes and/or most talented players in their positions in the world. Why don't we get the best out of them?
Reiko is 105kgs, probably the fastest player in the squad, extreme acceleration. He's a much better athlete than guys like Kriel or Slade, maybe any 13... Dmac has the most speed of any 10, an awesome skillset, maybe the best catch pass of anyone, again a much better athlete than a Pollard or Sexton... Yet neither is anywhere near as productive on the field. Why?
I’d like to see some proof of that. Kriel looks like an extreme crossfitter.
Ioane is 8kgs heavier and 5cm taller than Kriel
So what ?
Are you seriously trying to suggest Kriel is a better athlete than Ioane?
Well I’m certainly disputing the statement that Ioane is apparently the greatest athlete playing rugby these days. Maybe ever ?
I thought the comment actually was "He's a much better athlete than guys like Kriel or Slade, maybe any 13"
So maybe we could list the biggest, fastest, heaviest, (and most agile?) 13s currently playing the game. I doubt Rieko is the most coordinated. And I gotta say Kriel has become a pretty handy 13 (arguably Am is better at 13, but I'd really like us to have a 12 like De Allende).
And possibly this guy will return to form (at 13?) https://www.aap.com.au/news/wallaby-kerevi-prepares-to-be-best-in-the-world-again/
We've got one coming through
Max Llewelyn
Son of former Wales lock Gareth Llewelyn196cm & 105kg
Too lanky to be a great athlete. Would need to be 112kg at least
Still growing
-
@Kiwidom said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@KiwiMurph LOL , yeah am sure the allblacks are pretrified this week. Kearney is the same eijit who said before the quarter final last year not one single allblacks player was better than any Irish player
Before you go full outrage….
”Of course, they will always point to the last two quarter-finals of the World Cup which is what matters, but they will be coming to Dublin a little bit scared of what could potentially happen. And we’ll be scared too because the Irish team are always scared coming up against them.”
-
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
Rob Kearney’s All Blacks verdict: ‘They're scared of Ireland now...’
Retired Ireland full-back believes Scott Robertson’s All Blacks have arrived in Dublin scared of the threat posed by Andy Farrell’s team.
Great motivational speaker is Rob
-
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
Before you go full outrage….
”Of course, they will always point to the last two quarter-finals of the World Cup which is what matters, but they will be coming to Dublin a little bit scared of what could potentially happen. And we’ll be scared too because the Irish team are always scared coming up against them.”
Unbelievable how this was framed in the headline
-
Rewatching some old ABs highlights. God I miss watching the likes of Isreal Dagg continually smacking it 60-70m down field. The pop gun boots we have now are a bit of an issue
-
Shouldn’t the team have been named by now ?
-
@KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
Rewatching some old ABs highlights. God I miss watching the likes of Isreal Dagg continually smacking it 60-70m down field. The pop gun boots we have now are a bit of an issue
JB has got a good boot on him doesn't he? We don't see it much though.
I'm not a fan of contestibles. They must have done the analysis on it though -
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@Kiwidom said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@KiwiMurph LOL , yeah am sure the allblacks are pretrified this week. Kearney is the same eijit who said before the quarter final last year not one single allblacks player was better than any Irish player
Before you go full outrage….
”Of course, they will always point to the last two quarter-finals of the World Cup which is what matters, but they will be coming to Dublin a little bit scared of what could potentially happen. And we’ll be scared too because the Irish team are always scared coming up against them.”
Uh huh, I actually read the article too
Stupid beat up headline designed to get the keyboard warriors outraged
Lucky we don’t have any of those here!
-
@Jimmy-Jimmy said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
Shouldn’t the team have been named by now ?
Not til 5am NZT on Friday.
-
@Canes4life said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@Kiwidom said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
@KiwiMurph LOL , yeah am sure the allblacks are pretrified this week. Kearney is the same eijit who said before the quarter final last year not one single allblacks player was better than any Irish player
Why would the All Blacks be scared of a team that's never made it further than a WC quarter-final? Kearny is a moron.
I really hope the ABs pull out their performance of the year and put these guys in their place. The Irish fans on social media are even worse than the English, they believe their own hype and are still dining out on that test series win in New Zealand which now feels like a decade ago.
They have a selective morality too.....
No mention of breaking Retallicks eye socket, Aki concussing Tungafasi with a head high dangerous cleanout or Sean O Brien sparking Naholo out in the Lions tour with his Matfield esque padded forearm.
And they are just off the top of my head.They are a whinging bunch of Karmeichel Hunts.
They should tarmac the kip to make a car park for England.
-
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs Ireland:
Rob Kearney’s All Blacks verdict: ‘They're scared of Ireland now...’
Retired Ireland full-back believes Scott Robertson’s All Blacks have arrived in Dublin scared of the threat posed by Andy Farrell’s team.
He is related Joe Biden too, so with the day thats in it, fuck him.
-
Ireland team named :
Hugo Keenan; Mack Hansen, Garry Ringrose, Bundee Aki, James Lowe; Jack Crowley, Jamison Gibson-Park;
Andrew Porter, Rónan Kelleher, Finlay Bealham; Joe McCarthy, James Ryan; Tadhg Beirne, Josh van der Flier, Caelan Doris (capt).
Replacements: Rob Herring, Cian Healy, Tom O'Toole, Iain Henderson, Peter O'Mahony, Conor Murray, Ciarán Frawley, Jamie Osborne.
