@Crucial said in Brexit:
@MajorRage said in Brexit:
@Crucial said in Brexit:
@MajorRage said in Brexit:
Country can thrive, but won’t, because too many don’t want it to. It’s that simple.
An opinion.
I keep out of this board mostly as it is just polemic and even if you try to be open to both sides and ask for an opposing view supported by fact you get accused of having made your mind up.
Not attacking you or your comment but I'm not stupid enough to think that people's opinions aren't tainted. I actually like to hear both sides and make my own mind up. In this day and age that gets very difficult
Apologies, that posted sound more aggressive than it meant to.
I agree with your response entirely.
The point I’m making is that we will never know the true truth about Brexit. Is the economy down vs Europe since Brexit? Unequivocally, yes. Is it Brexits fault? Yes, and no.
In my view, it’s down more because of the pandemic. An underbelly of this country has been exposed. It has a very large, extremely lazy, sub section. They were lazy before, they got lazier under govt support snd they fight going back.
The thought of picking up the slack is non existent. Blame the govt, instead of working harder. Jobs are EVERYWHERE for the poor. Because people left after the pandemic and the Poms didn’t pick up the slack. They moaned, they whinged …. Then sat on their arses as the vacancies piled up. The media has ploughed so much negativity that ppl have lost faith, and the will, to improve.
It’s sad. Under a United country, it would thrive. Properly. But there are too many who would rather piss, whinge, moan than take advantage of the opportunities.
Back in the early part of this thread when debating/arguing sides this very outcome was predicted. I have worked in environments where it was Euro immigration doing most of the grunt work and on the rare occasions a local would try out they would be gone in hours as it was too hard (or easier not to work).
I think you've highlighted precisely one of the things which is badly wrong with the UK and why so many businesses supported Remain and advocate re-joining the EU.
Why bother about actually motivating your staff, increasing productivity and investing in people when it's so much easier to get cheaper labour from Eastern Europe and blame the locals for a poor work-ethic? And when the feckless, work-shy locals vote to leave the EU, it's so much easier to castigate them and call them names rather than understand their concerns rather than actually do the grunt work of getting the best out of your people. (That said, there are UK sectors with fantastic management - as @MajorRage has pointed).
For me, much of the Brexit debate is/was about making life easier for the wealthier sectors of the country rather than improving growth, productivity and maximising the potential of the whole of the UK. I voted Remain way back, but seeing the negative impact of EU membership in Cornwall (the poorest region of the UK) along with the antics of second referendum advocates, has changed my mind completely.
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