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@antipodean said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

This game really appears to have been one massive cockup by match officials:

Jul 9, 2017

Lions star Alun Wyn Jones should not have been allowed back on after HIA, says Matt Stevens

Alun Wyn Jones should not have been allowed back onto the field during the third Test against New Zealand because he had exceeded the time limit allowed for a Head Injury Assessment (HIA), says Matt Stevens.

But wasn't he subbed after he passed the HIA by Lawes. So coming back on to replace Warburton when he went off for his HIA is all a non-issue.

3.14 Substituted players rejoining the match

If a player is substituted, that player may only return to play when replacing:
•an injured front row player in accordance with Law 3.5
•a player with a blood injury in accordance with Law 3.11
•a player undertaking a Head Injury Assessment in accordance with Law 3.12
•a player who has been injured as a result of foul play (as verified by the Match Officials).

I don't think TJP is good coming off the bench - he spends 70 minutes working himself into a frenzy and is about to explode when he finally does make the field.

well after a few years of drinking French wine - I'm back to the boycott.

Mind you should have had it won before Kaino was sent to the bin.

@rotated said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

@Billy-Tell said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #3:

They've only bottled it if we lose. Otherwise it's a masterstroke.

Ultimately the winning and losing will be done from the 10 jersey on down. So it's hardly panic stations and I'm confident the ABs will win the breakdown and tackle.

Purely in regards to Hansen's selections, it's been pretty poor planning. He released Savea and Barrett to the Canes because Hansen said they weren't in the frame to play the Lions going forward and wanted them to get a chance (while patting himself on the back after Ioane's selection). Then somehow after one of the stranger tests in recent times Hansen has done a complete U-turn on everything.

Pretty harsh on those guys.

Does Joride kick? Not ideal in your first start, but perhaps that is part of the story?

I think the issue with Ioane is his work rate - when the forwards were a man down a bit of help from one of the wingers carting the ball up would have been good.

Not too sure about Jordie Barret - I'm not quite on the band wagon yet he has done some good stuff at super level but so has McKenzie. His defense is bloody suspect as well. Only change I would have made was Julian Savea.

@Catogrande said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

@Gary the funny thing though was the Lions had their best period during the 14 v 14 time.

Probably because we weren't giving away so many dumb penalties

Might also be a case of the Lions remaining 14 players lifting their game to compensate and the All Blacks relaxing a bit mentally knowing they are back to even numbers.

@raznomore said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

Checking in late.....

Warburton is an absolute class act. He knew his team had played 14 men for 50 min and only just won. He is easily one of my favourite personalties

Yeap he came across really well in the interview and was well aware that they had only just beaten a 14 man All Black team. I also liked how Read didn't use being a player down as an excuse.

Then you have Gatland who reckons they haven't been stretched by the All Blacks. Maybe I'm just arrogant but if the All Blacks had only just beaten a 14 man Lions, Aussie or SA team by three points in the last 10 minutes I'd want an inquiry

@pakman said in All Blacks v BI Lions Test #2:

And an attack analysis, including the 'tricks' the Lions used to part the black sea for Murray: http://www.the42.ie/analysis-sexton-farrell-lions-all-blacks-2-3474564-Jul2017/ .

looking at the video of the first try if ALB had made his tackle instead of slipping off Daly it the movement would have been shut down. I don't think ALB committed to early as they say in the analysis he just did a shit tackle.

@Crucial
Yeah I noticed that as well - thing is by the looks of it the ref is looking right at the lions players who are about to position themselves in the Crusaders backline.

a clip that keeps on giving

@SimonAdd_2 said in Argentina v England (1st test):

It was a pearl of a Test match, and also produced possibly the most beautiful scrum of all time.

Forwards, tissues at the ready:

a similar thing happened last year in the NZ vs Aus tests - from memory the ref called for a reset and then allowed the Aussie halfback to throw the ball under the number eights foot.

yeah if they can shorten the race and its a 25 minute time limit - why not just say boat leading at 25 minute mark is the winner. I say this knowing NZ lead from the start.

@dogmeat said in Americas Cup:

I thought we won the start in race 3 today but we just don't seem to have the gas on a reach and Artemis can dictate and just go round us.

I don't know why I am investing in this. Oracle will clobber us 7-2 I reckon

Assuming we manage to win one more against the swedes

Didn't team NZ win all the starts in the last Americas cup with Oracle just chasing them down with extra speed. I think it'll come down to that in the finals one boat is just going to be way faster than the other and tactics, match racing skill etc won't matter.

So how long does it take to make a new wing - a patched up one might be O.K against the British team but they will need more speed in the finals.

I think me jumping on the bandwagon might have been just enough to cause the capsize. My Canadian wife thinks I'm nuts after getting her and her whole family hooked during the last one.

One thing I noticed in the game was Owens not allowing the scrum competition. That series of scrums when the Aussies couldn't hook it due to pressure were great. Then Owen allowed Phipps to put the ball into the second row to try and get the game moving. If it happens again I reckon we need a rule change like mauls - use it or lose it. If you can't hook the ball the scrum is reset but the other team gets the put in.

@DMX said in Springboks v All Blacks:

Yes I must say I have been underwhelmed by Ardie's starts. Not that I would say he has been bad but definitely nothing like the physicality that Cane was bring. But to be fair there is not an open side in the world who I would take over Cane at the moment.

I might be inclined to pick one that's not injured.

<p>bit different from the Galarza incident that some are using as evidence that the All Blacks get treated differently - Brodie reported to the doctor at 1/2 time a finger had dislodged his contact.</p>
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It might be a have been a bit more interesting if Frank's incident happened in Australia with the local broadcaster showing it over and over on the big screen. 70 minutes of 14 vs 15 would have made things a bit closer.

<p>pretty sure Bashop retired after the 1995 world cup and was long gone by the time Umaga, Alatini and Ieremia turned up</p>

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<p>The point where Moore asked about a yellow card - for an infringement in the red zone with us on attack - was before either of those two incidents I believe. And Poite treated Moore with disdain right then and there.</p>
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<p>So Moore must have said something pretty fucked before then. Having a copy of the ref's audio would be great.</p>
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<p>I think its got more to do with Moore asking at every penalty if its a yellow card. When I was a young lad we used to scream at the ref when he awarded a penalty in the first few minutes "he has  been doing all game" it seems Moore is still playing that game</p>