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Blackadder.

@mg welcome aboard. Cracking start to kick off with replying to and critiquing your own posts.

@antipodean Probably almost as bad as if someone discovered where they're buried?

It makes zero sense eh. Then we get people complaining about people complaining about DH and justifying it by saying he's the 5th midfielder and we're scraping the barrel there. Like fuck we are and that's exactly where you select a Poihipi/Lam/etc now that we have 4 proven midfielders.

I'm getting fucking sick of hearing super rugby doesn't cut it when the coaches refuse to fucking pick the best players in the competition and work with them.

Pick second rate, supposedly established players and get second rate results. Colour me surprised.

I was nodding my head thinking "yeah that's probably close to the best we could hope for" and then burst out laughing when I saw Frizzell.

WTF? Why? A strictly blindside only player on the bench, next to a guy who covers 6, with a guy who covers 6 starting. Fozzie knows how to get me everytime.

That we lost to Ireland.

Not really a meme. But pretty cool.

@pakman said in All Blacks 2024:

@Chester-Draws said in All Blacks 2024:

I think for loose forwards:

6 : Papali'i
7 : Cane
8 : Blackadder

They can play paper, rock, scissors at each scrum.

Sounds pretty dangerous for Ethan

Natalya King  /  Oct 7, 2016  /  Media

Aaron Smith got screwed – and Stuff could end up getting sued

Aaron Smith's indiscretions have been the biggest media story of the week. But lawyer Natalya King believes both the couple who made the recording and the media which broke the story may have committed an invasion of privacy.

Aaron Smith got screwed – and Stuff could end up getting sued

By Natalya King
October 8, 2016
Aaron Smith’s indiscretions have been the biggest media story of the week. But lawyer Natalya King believes both the couple who made the recording and the outlets which broke the story may have committed an invasion of privacy.

Amidst the red-eyed rage that greeted the news that All Blacks have sex – and sometimes have sex with women who are not their partners (what a shock) – there was one somewhat unexpected voice of calm. The New Zealand Herald reports that, discussing the matter on the Paul Henry Show, Judith Collins admitted “the situation wasn’t her business.”

Quite. In fact, the law might go so far as to say not only was it not Judith’s business, or yours or mine for that matter, but that recording Aaron Smith’s escapade and sending it into a news outlet was actually an invasion of his privacy.

In the legal sense, an invasion of privacy is the “highly offensive” disclosure of private facts. That is, if Aaron had a reasonable expectation of privacy in the facts of the event, and if the average person considered that the publicity given to those facts was highly offensive then Stuff (or the couple who enthusiastically recorded the incident) may well find themselves on the wrong end of an invasion of privacy claim.

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Absent some voluntary disclosure by way of, for example, an intentionally leaked sex tape, it’s usually pretty clear that sex between two consenting adults is a private matter. And yes, I know, part of the appeal in having sex in a toilet cubicle is the risk of getting caught, but when ahem push comes to shove, it’s a little difficult to see how one’s sexual activity in a confined and indoor space with four walls is anything other than a private fact.

Some, including Stuff, the aforementioned receiver of the amorous audio-recording, have asserted that the toilet cubicle was a public place, but that’s not quite true. Aside from the obvious problem that the entire purpose of a closed door is to create a private space, Christchurch Airport is a private business that prohibits filming within the airport without its express permission, and without payment of a “location charge”.

See also: Eight key learnings from the Aaron Smith toilet sex scandal

Even if it were correct to say that the airport is a public space (and good luck getting a judge on board with that one), that doesn’t mean that Smith’s sexual activity automatically loses its private status. The law still protects a degree of privacy in public – for context, the UK Courts found that photos of Naomi Campbell on the street outside a drug treatment centre were disclosure of a private fact,¹ and the New Zealand courts have protected as private a conversation between an allegedly intoxicated driver and her husband following a car crash on a public highway in New Zealand.²

Just like Naomi Campbell (albeit probably not quite like Naomi Campbell) one issue for Aaron Smith has been his celebrity status. All Blacks, so the theory goes, give up their right to privacy as soon as they get Steve’s call. But that’s not quite right either. In the eyes of the law, a person’s right to privacy can be eroded if there’s some legitimate public concern in the matter. Legitimate public concern, according to the courts, covers issues like public health and safety, or the conduct of the government. That might automatically mean that some well-known figures, like politicians, have a lesser right to privacy, but on the sliding scale of celebrity status vs public concern, an All Black and his sexual proclivities are fairly low level. Put another way, two people using a disabled toilet as a space in which to carry out their infidelity might be distasteful, but it’s not a matter of national importance.

Put in that context, the only remaining question is whether the publicity of Aaron’s tryst in the toilet – and its accompanying audiotape – was highly offensive. For my part, when John Key’s commenting on your sex life it’s gone well beyond that.

@MN5 said in England v Scotland 6N:

@Machpants said in England v Scotland 6N:

@MN5 said in England v Scotland 6N:

@Machpants said in England v Scotland 6N:

@MN5 said in England v Scotland 6N:

@Machpants said in England v Scotland 6N:

@MN5 said in England v Scotland 6N:

@Machpants said in England v Scotland 6N:

@Crucial said in England v Scotland 6N:

Question for those that sat through the whole game (and the other one).

Were the 'time wasting' changes evident? Lineouts? Scrums? Fake injuries?

Yes, only on the last line out was there anything towards time waring, England didn't huddled but they talked and walked slowly in.

Referees were awesome, will done team kiwi

Two tens don't work England, especially with a light weight 13. No dead cat bounce fit England, how will it work for Oz? I'm glad their idea of playing like South Africa with kicking didn't pay off. I'm half English, but I fall back on my Scottish ancestry side in any team with Farrell in it, although Maro was not his normal utter tosser self.

This face made me smile

Scotland played a more fun brand of rugby and got away with it, now ranked fifth in the world! Clan de Merwe scored some great tries, but he jammed in on defence so often, he was awful

Still MOM. Good on him.

Yeah, they're so accurate in assessment, press MotM

You’re definitely showing your English roots here

We’re talking about the worlds best winger

He's at least second best to his countryman, Kolbe

EDIT: my name is Scott [name of 3 Scottish Kings] [Clan name 1] [Clan name 2] haha lots of Scottishness there

I have a ranga beard and a more Scottish name

Um, ranga beard too, beat this

I got married in a kilt

It's called a dress, your husband wore the kilt

Sorry I fucked up the score guys. Had it until Taylor fucked me over.

Where has that Sam Cane been all my life? Unlucky to not be mom.

Brilliant control from Mounga.

Wound back the clock Beauds.

Forwards unbelievable.

Christie played his best game in black, he should be proud.

How about that rock solid midfield.

REDEMPTION

@taniwharugby said in Has Hansen gone stale?:

What I dont like is where a win might be sacrificed solely with an eye on a RWC, if this ends up being the case then we will end up with friendlies and less interest in between RWCs.

Poor old Bonesetta trying to comfort me near the end of the match. "Oh well at least these games don't matter". The confusion and regret on her face from the glare she got back was priceless. Bless her, she's into rugby in a big way but only been that way since she met me...actually really picked up on the nuances really well.

May she rest in peace. Anyone want to buy a shovel? Only used once.

@Yeahtheboys said in Hardik Pandya controversy:

Jsut saw that everyone’s anal about his comments and I think it’s pretty bullshit how pc this world is. “Free speech” my ass. But since it’s againsy women no one will dear speak up or they’ll be regarded as sexist

Not everyone.

For example, I have no idea what you are talking about.

@mooshld said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:

You can't tell me there isn't a better 6 in New Zealand then a lock that sometimes plays 6 and there isn't a better 7 then an out of form guy that doesn't get turnovers and plays more like a 6 then a 7 anyway.

And I wouldn't try to! I want to see DP given a fair crack (edit: at openside), rather than being a 6 in a trio of opensides, or a guy coming on to try and do something when we're getting absolutely smacked AND are defending a lineout on our tryline.

Ioane has done enough for me to want to see way more of him at 6.

Grace seems like the perfect 8 to work alongside those guys for mine, with the psycho form he's been showing.

I want to see Ardie kill it off the bench in whatever position they want to use him, preferably getting a 30 minute spell.

Blackadder looks to me like a 7 in the McCaw mould. Hammer and tongs into everything without a care for his health. Until he returns, Cane keeps his place.

Sotutu definitely deserves a shot after his SR form.

Papalii
Ioane
Sotutu
Grace
Savea
Cane

Plenty of cover for every position and plenty of guys in form. With the likes of Robinson, Sowakula, MMT, Delaney, Blackadder, Jacobson to provide plenty of competition.

We have enough guys that can play 7 to a really high level though, so we don't need more!

@Machpants said in Rugby World Cup news:

Well, he shows his quality compared to Wayne Smith

I thought we were all for helping out the minnows

Razor and co making a strong statement that they think the crusaders coaches are a pile of shit.