Hawkes Bay v Counties Manukau
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<p>But as long as they are enjoying themselves Mr Philpott</p>
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<p>That is not a penalty as he picked up the ball behind where the other HB player touched it, even if he was in front when the ball was last touched</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Nepia" data-cid="611332" data-time="1472720629">
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<p>What the hell?????</p>
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<p>yes Lowe got himself back onside before playing the ball. Fucking ref has no idea at all</p> -
<p>Well at least they enjoyed themselves even if they almost conceeded 50 at home </p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Stockcar86" data-cid="611294" data-time="1472716507">
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<p>Give <span style="color:rgb(40,40,40);font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;">Mikaele Tu'u a chance I say</span></p>
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<p>I assume he's playing with the U19s this Saturday.</p>
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<p>I predict another loss for both the Saracens and U19s by the way. The U18 girls might win. They seem to be our only winning team thus far.</p> -
<p>Where do we go to from here guys? Our team looks poorly coached, lacking in skills and general gamecraft and perhaps even a bit down on fitness given the way they seem to be more tired than the opposition toward the end of the game. We look to have limited penetration in midfield, absolutely appalling tackling and not too much go forward up front so there is certainly plenty of room for improvement. Some of these problems you can rectify but, sadly, lack of skills is not really one of them. No matter how good your coaching staff is they cannot compensate for that important consideration, even if they did have the vast majority of the say when it comes to picking their squad. Money cannot be used as a reason as the Bay have been one of the largest spenders on player salaries for the last few seasons so they theoretically should be able to use that as a carrot to assemble a squad to do us proud. I can accept losses, grudgingly of course, but losses of the magnitude we have had to endure so far are very disappointing. The writing was on the wall as early as the hidings we endured in the preseason matches so these performances have not exactly come as a surprise. Regardless it is still very hard to watch our beloved team getting completely demolished in the manner they have been.</p>
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<p>We are just going to have to suck it up and suffer as there is no way this trainwreck is going to be turned around this season.</p> -
<p>I think we are proven right that we have too many young/inexperienced players in the team and too few who tackle and communicate well. Everything looks so disorganised.</p>
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<p>Bring back Buckman and Horrell! Use voodoo or whatever to heal Edmonds and Evans. </p>
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<p>I also wonder whether Dixon is the right person for the captaincy. I really rate him as a player, but as a captain? He said in an interview that he wouldn't say much but just wanted to lead by example. With a young team like that, and clearly with lack of confidence, some of the issues are of a mental nature. I think you need someone who can talk, motivate, etc. Not sure who'd be better. Abbott (now vc)? We don't have many options, do we?</p> -
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<p>I assume he's playing with the U19s this Saturday.</p>
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<p>I predict another loss for both the Saracens and U19s by the way. <strong>The U18 girls might win. They seem to be our only winning team thus far</strong>.</p>
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<p>Not exactly true as I read an article somewhere that the HB teachers have formed a team and beat their teaching counterparts from another part of the country, obviously Mr. Philpot had no involvement!</p> -
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<p>Not exactly true as I read an article somewhere that the HB teachers have formed a team and beat their teaching counterparts from another part of the country, obviously Mr. Philpot had no involvement!</p>
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<p>If you're considering them a rep team, then you're definitely right! There's also a HB Samoan team now, so maybe they'll win, too! Don't think Philpot has anything to do with them either.</p> -
<p>Just got home from the match.</p>
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<p>It was obvious from a long way we weren't going to win.</p>
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<p>Putting subs on in the 70th and 74th minutes seemed an absolute waste of time when you're 20-41 down with ten minutes to go. </p>
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<p>Tackling again was an issue - but was very noticeable when the teams were doing their warmups that CM were physically a lot bigger (taller and wider). </p>
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<p>I don't see the point in persisting with Selesele and Fruean now. They wil be gone after this year regardless.</p>
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<p>Even as we head now towards the Championship, I say give these guys like Mikaele Tu'u (he is a big boy for 18 years) a go for the rest of the year. They will be around next year and the experience this year will be good for next year.</p>
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<p>Stargazer mentioned the captaincy. There was an injury break where Dixon was talking to the referee for a whole minute. Even as the teams were coming off the field at halftime Dixon and the referee were the last off the field with Dixon having whatever conversation he had with him. Dixon didnt appear to be reluctant and reticent to say something.</p>
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<p>Dont understand the slim young Tiaan Falcon coming on as a replacement for the bigger Ropiha at second five particuarly against a bigger opposition.</p> -
<p>Believe it or not but I have just had a visit from the tennant in the flat upstairs checking to see if I am alright. Said they were concerned at my wellbeing (they had been watching the match as well) and when an ambulance went past they did the good neighbourly thing and came to check, just in case!!!!! Effing Ta$man supporters.........................</p>