Bledisloe II - Have a stab at the teams.
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Other players have been banned for less, and this area has been of huge focus over the last year or so.<br><br>
It makes no sense to me that he hasn't been cited and subsequently banned.</p></blockquote>
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I don't really agree that SANZAAR should be coming out and explaining the non-citing. By not citing it they have said everything they need to say. ie. There was no citable offence. <br>
Where would it stop if they had to explain every non citing? <br>
What is the threshhold for outraged tweets or news paper columns? Would they then explain the wallaby 5s non citing for his non gouge on read? There would be a list of about 500 marginal clean outs and tackles from every game that didn't get cited but could have been close. -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="booboo" data-cid="610678" data-time="1472512020"><p>"Incandescent with rage" was John Inverdale</p></blockquote>
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No it wasn't. It was a comment by Brian Moore on Sunday Grandstand on the BBC in November 2005 when he was being interviewed by John Inverdale. -
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I like it how the historic NH journos outrageous idiocy now gets attributed, over time, to all of them, as memory fades if who the actual dunce was.<br><br>
Just like how a John Beattie can't tell the difference between a Tana Umaga and a Joeli Vidiri and calls all brownskins a poach. We now attribute the "born in Tokoroa" to about 5 or 6 different journos.<br><br>
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<p>Which players? And in those examples, were the victims far more vocal after receiving said "gouge"?</p>
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<p>Ashton is the obvious case. But it's not isolated. Ashton was also viewed by the commissioner to not be a gouge, but to be hands on the face only.</p> -
All Black fans in India are outraged by the Phipps incident.....<br><br><img src="http://www.aaj.tv/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/shoe-1.jpg" alt="shoe-1.jpg">
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<p>I think my award would be more akin to this though:</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="sparky" data-cid="610733" data-time="1472524576"><p>No it wasn't. It was a comment by Brian Moore on Sunday Grandstand on the BBC in November 2005 when he was being interviewed by John Inverdale.</p></blockquote>
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<p>Given their track record, I don't know how anyone can come on here and cite SANZAAR's 'laws and practices' with a straight face.</p>
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<p>I give up. Outraged outrage has been put aside, ever so briefly, in favor of fabulously persuasive argument that Owen Franks is guilty of performing a tonsillectomy or something because SANZAR was invented by the Three Stooges.</p> -
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<p>I like it how the historic NH journos outrageous idiocy now gets attributed, over time, to all of them, as memory fades if who the actual dunce was.<br><br>
Just like how a <strong>John Beattie</strong> can't tell the difference between a Tana Umaga and a Joeli Vidiri and calls all brownskins a poach. We now attribute the "born in Tokoroa" to about 5 or 6 different journos.<br><br>
One day we will be teasing Marto for running over children ......</p>
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<p>Och no, noot a Scotsman havin a whine too ?</p> -
If you are on Twitter you might like to ask Quinn to back that up with some actual evidence <br>
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That should be a bit awkward for him<br><br>
I don't buy rugby news anymore , he's one of the reasons . He had two pages of his name dropping and bullshit in every issue but the final straw was when he was banging on about what an awesome guy Stephen Jones was . I wish he'd find some other outlet for his self loathing, there's no need for him to join the Nh/Aussie circle jerk about nz rugby. -
<p>The niggle, the standing up to niggle, the face touches (where no one actually gets hurt), the Cane pushing Pococok and Kepu holding Cane down, the Coles swinging cleanout that gets seen and the Moore swinging cleanout that doesn't,</p>
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<p>they're all normal parts of rugby, part of the essence of rugby</p>
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<p>When you go live to a game you're reminded it's 15 blokes against 15 blokes. Blokes who play and practice and try to win just like we do or used to do at a far lower level. Fired up by the game and what you have to do to play it - just like we do/did.</p>
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<p>Going over the minutae of details and incidents can cause a loss of context</p>
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<p>By far the most reprehensible "just not rugby" act was that little twat going to so much trouble hiffing Malakai's boot into the stands!</p>
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<p>Swatting it away is one thing but a full throw to the boundary is the act of prize dickhead.</p>
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<p>We all might mimic something the lads did in the heat last week, but surely not one of us would do what Phipps did?</p>
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I thought the boot throw was hilarious, in a Will Ferrall, grown man tantrum, kind of way.
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<p>I thought the boot throw was hilarious, in a Will Ferrall, grown man tantrum, kind of way.</p>
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<p>I like it even more when I think of it like that.</p>
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<p>I thought the boot throw was hilarious, in a Will Ferrall, grown man tantrum, kind of way.</p>
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<p>He was a halfback. They live by different rules</p> -
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<p>He was a halfback. They live by different rules</p>
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<p>I raised a son on the only true truth in the rugby faith - one can rely on and trust any man wearing a single number on his back. 1 is to be afforded high respect<em> :yes: </em>together with his offsiders 2 and 3<em>. </em>He became a very capable, skillful, tall 3; who is now passing the wisdom on to two more young emerging disciples.</p>
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<p>A man wearing 9 only just scrapes in because he can be handy - pointing out in which direction one should next trudge, head down; barking at one when one is tired and confused and needs to be barked at to keep one's mind on the job - like a coxswain in the rowing; advising when it is safe to deliver a short right which won't be seen; and sticking it up the other bastards with better lines, more quickly delivered. Their yap can also be handy in winning sheilas later in the evening. We had one, "Feeb" (for Feeble Elliott) who grinned all the time. Feeb was adept at starting blues then ducking off to the side to stand and grin and watch as the big blokes finished them.</p>
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<p>The default setting on anyone wearing 10 and above is that he is a w00fta and a dunce with a poor work ethic, profligate and reckless.</p>
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<p>Phipps saw an opportunity to be a bloody nuisance, which is his job, and took it. I'm inclined to grin approvingly, as would Feeb.</p>
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<p>Edit: I should add Nick Farr-Jones was our best at running the cutter, multi-tasking - directing and driving the forwards continuously at the set piece and breakdown (invaluable when you've got your head down and cannot see much); helpfully advising the other lot when they were creeping offside, in a loud voice; delivering quality ball; mostly leaving the referee alone to do his job and playing his own game of judicious kicks, occasional sniping and strong defence (he was a big bloke for a scrum half). He also responded graciously on a couple of occasions when I sent a book over to his law offices seeking an autograph, as gifts to my son, choosing to have them returned by hand when he had done that.</p>