Bledisloe I (All Blacks team room bugged)
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@Crucial it definitely happened to Cully, but I remember it as a Canes game in NSW?
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@mariner4life said in Bledisloe I (All Blacks team room bugged):
@Crucial it definitely happened to Cully, but I remember it as a Canes game in NSW?
Yep, I think you may be right. Possibly even the same game Lomu was Red Carded (two YCs. Late tackle and deliberate knock on)?
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@mariner4life @Crucial canes v tahs. Jonah did similar in same game
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@Crucial said in Bledisloe I (All Blacks team room bugged):
Google confirms.
v Waratahs, Sydney 2002.
But not the Lomu RC game. That was 2000 and was a spear tackle on Nathan Grey followed by a deliberate knock on
A spear tackle on Nathan Grey should be rewarded not punished
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@booboo said in Bledisloe I (All Blacks team room bugged):
@Crucial said in Bledisloe I (All Blacks team room bugged):
Google confirms.
v Waratahs, Sydney 2002.
But not the Lomu RC game. That was 2000 and was a spear tackle on Nathan Grey followed by a deliberate knock on
A spear tackle on Nathan Grey should be rewarded not punished
I was nearly going to say that as well. IIRC it was a funny one. Would probably get a RC instantly now but it was a case of Grey being completely manhandled by the bigger Lomu. There was no apparent intention to spear just what would now be deemed a lack of care taken to bring him to ground safely.
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I'm not ruling out incompetent NSW cops just yet.
Hypothetically..
They've come up with nothing. Have decided to go after the easiest target, the bloke who found it. Who happens to be a Kiwi (bonus). It will get dismissed at court and the cops can then just chuck their hands in the air and say "well bugger me I dunno, we tried our best". -
I have a tendency to agree with Gregor Paul.
The Aussies (Pulver and Krusty) and their sycophantic media are really making arses of themselves over this.
I don't think anyone really thought it was the Wobs - although there was a large part of me that really really REALLY wanted it to be - but jeez how to keep digging a hole.
I'd love for Tew to get on the blower (or send an email that gets "leaked" to the media) telling Pulver to pull his head in.
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One of my favourite journos is Paul Cully, and I think he makes a few good points here. Though I think the whole thing is a bit overblown.
Wallabies fans have a right to feel aggrieved about All Blacks hotel bug story
The simmering resentment felt in Australia among Wallabies fans over this sad affair has, at its core, some justification.
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@barbarian he does? That article is very long on "if you think, really really hard, then just maybe, you could possibly find some way to justify feeling aggrieved about this". The victim mentality in Aus rugby has come pouring out over the last couple of days. If ever there was a team and an organisation that needed a good year on the field it's you guys, get some fucking pride and spine back.
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@mariner4life I think the article is fine, is just needs a new title - like nobody wins in the bugging case.
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@mariner4life Did anyone in Aus really feel THAT aggrieved about it though?
It got a lot of media attention, but most fans I know were far more aggrieved about being towelled up in Bledisloe 1 than the bugging thing.
As I said, Cully's points are valid and maybe Aussie fans could feel slightly aggrieved, but I don't think anyone actually does.
The story was a distraction, a joke, and I don't think many fans wasted much energy worrying about it.
The ARU, on the other hand, overdid it a bit.
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@barbarian said in Bledisloe I (All Blacks team room bugged):
@mariner4life Did anyone in Aus really feel THAT aggrieved about it though?
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@barbarian said in Bledisloe I (All Blacks team room bugged):
One of my favourite journos is Paul Cully, and I think he makes a few good points here. Though I think the whole thing is a bit overblown.
The simmering resentment felt in Australia among Wallabies fans over this sad affair has, at its core, some justification.
Baabaa. I know you think this article presents a 'reasonable" view. I think that is because it is less hyperbolistic (is that a word?) than some if the bullshit going about.
But it still comes from the position that the All Blacks created this story to create disharmony amongst the Wallabies, and the ARU, and conspired with a media outlet to release it on game day to cause maximum damage.
Cully still requires his fair share of tin foil.
So ... if it was released on the Friday would that have caused less angst than the Saturday? I don't think so. The narrative would be "it was released the day BEFORE the game in order to maximise disruption ... ".
If Gregor Paul had published on the Thursday? Well obviously it was to distract from the naming of the Wallabies ... (I THINK that happens Thursday ... ? @gollum? )
If the All Blacks had immediately gone to the cops rather than the Hotel? Your conspiracy theorists would still have been gunning for them for going public with it.
Cully should be calling out Pulver for his fuckwittedness in trying to accuse the ABs of something they didn't do. Or owning up to the fact that Cheika is the ultimate con artist who has deflected all criticism of chronic under performance by buying into distractions like this.
Nobody NOBODY accused the ARU or Wobs of planting the bug. The guys at the head of your table are digging the sport here a hole.
PS. Surely an unauthorised listening device deserves a greater penalty than "public mischief". Something doesn't quite add up to me.
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Some reasonable listening ... interview with Gregor Paul who broke the news ... after news and weather and stuff about 13 mins in ...
http://120.138.20.16/WeekOnDemand/radiosport/2017.02.09-09.00.00-D.mp3
http://120.138.20.16/WeekOnDemand/radiosport/2017.02.09-09.15.00-D.mp3
From here:
up for a week
EDIT: updated links ... updated start time ... thanks @Crucial
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As I puzzled over this curious but insignificant incident I discovered this pearl, carefully concealed among posters' earnest detective work and conspiracy theories - an undeniable, irrefutable truth hidden in plain view:
@Frye said in Bledisloe I (All Blacks team room bugged):
"Pulver is an imbecile. Recently he said the Sydney sevens was the most complex event ever run."
My eye was drawn inevitably to this bit:
"Pulver is an imbecile."
This is not mere opinion, it is fact - see for yourself:
I repeat, for emphasis:
Pulver is an imbecile.
Pulver is an imbecile. Pulver is an imbecile. Pulver is an imbecile. Pulver is an imbecile. Pulver is an imbecile. Pulver is a ...
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