Bledisloe I (All Blacks team room bugged)
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="KiwiMurph" data-cid="608258" data-time="1471910728">
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<p>He's also not explosive - he has a high motor so he can get to a lot of breakdowns but he has no real acceleration/top end speed. </p>
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<p>Also weirdly not physical in the tackle either.</p>
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<p>Obviously the bloke would take my head off, but in the tackle you don't see him able to be as dominant as a guy like Read or McCaw was and there really is no physical reason for that - it's simply technique/mindset. He doesn't wrap the potential offload and very rarely gets a guy moving backwards.</p>
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<p>To temper things I think at Super level where you still have top tier guys playing, but teams have a few more holes and the patterns aren't as embedded I think he can be a lethal weapon.</p> -
What Hooper and Pocock do is create opportunities from turnover ball, but where OZ have struggled is that they seem disorganised after they've got the ball to make anything of it.<br><br>
Lack of 9/10 taking control in those situations. Players quickly fanning out. The wingers ready etc. <br><br>
So unless those things are addressed then any advantage that may arise from TO ball will be negligible. <br><br>
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<p>Also weirdly not physical in the tackle either.</p>
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<p>Obviously the bloke would take my head off, but in the tackle you don't see him able to be as dominant as a guy like Read or McCaw was and there really is no physical reason for that - it's simply technique/mindset. He doesn't wrap the potential offload and very rarely gets a guy moving backwards.</p>
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<p>To temper things I think at Super level where you still have top tier guys playing, but teams have a few more holes and the patterns aren't as embedded I think he can be a lethal weapon.</p>
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<p>I'm sure Pocock could do 1000 pull ups without breaking a sweat, but he has fuck all leg drive and no real pace so doesn't have the explosiveness. He's like the opposite of Ardie Savea.</p> -
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<p>Were their also individual models too for each player?</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Mick Gold Coast QLD" data-cid="608125" data-time="1471861428">
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<p>I think there is another 35 points and more margin coming up!</p>
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<p>Among other interesting odds NZ TAB has</p>
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<p>ABs at $1.07; Wallabies at $7.50.</p>
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<p>Wallabies to take the Bledisloe $31</p>
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<p>They're giving the Wallabies 19.5 points headstart at evens.</p>
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<p> Ta$man are at $3.75 to beat Canterbury in ChCh, which looks bloody unlikely to me - but apparently twice as likely as the Wallabies!</p>
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<p>Might be worth a small bet on the Wallabies and some prayers for yellow cards. :)</p> -
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<p>Yep, the guy is a farking unit and a half. He should be wrecking ball but I'm not sure I've seen him ever break a tackle. His ball skills are also incredibly limited for a guy who used to be a back and used to force his brothers into help him practice passing.</p>
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<p>Not really - when you've got a private school system as blinkered as ours, as long as he was a bit bigger and stronger than most of his opponents, he'd be a great back in GPS.</p> -
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Virgil" data-cid="608383" data-time="1471935703"><p>Richie, Dan, Conrad, Ma'a, Kevin, Tony..</p></blockquote>And a bunch of the replacements are out too, and our hooker had a bunch of painkilling injections and couldn't scrummage or tackle that hard...
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<p>Also weirdly not physical in the tackle either.</p>
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<p>Obviously the bloke would take my head off, but in the tackle you don't see him able to be as dominant as a guy like Read or McCaw was and there really is no physical reason for that - it's simply technique/mindset. He doesn't wrap the potential offload and very rarely gets a guy moving backwards.</p>
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<p>I think part of that is his pilfer technique. Richie & George Smith were outstanding at making the tackle, sort of letting go, leaping to their feet & grabbing the ball. Pocock almost seems to want to give guys a little shove & let their momentum take them down while he remains standing the whole time - so he can then get straight on the ball. It works well for the 3 or 4 turnovers he gets, but it means his other 10 or 15 tackles have zero bite & let the opposition get front foot ball. Or worse bury him in a ruck.</p>
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<p>Its not helped by the overall lack of bite in the backrow, a lot of our turnovers to Read or Rodney or McCaw over the years came as they stepped in after Kaino or Collins had smashed a player backwards delaying the support players. No one is doing that hit for the Wallabies right now.</p> -
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<div style="font-family:inherit;"><span style="font-family:inherit;">But then their defence was a disaster, dropping off 38 tackles and conceding six tries.</span></div>
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<div style="font-family:inherit;"><span style="font-family:inherit;">So, almost as if the Wallabies coaches <em>thought</em> they had some new information about how the ABs might attack, but then that information turned out to be false...</span></div>
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<div style="font-family:inherit;"><span style="font-family:inherit;">Reminder: there was a six day gap between that bug in the AB rooms being discovered and being reported.</span></div>
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The bugging saga continues, with Aussie police not ruling out the bug being planted by someone in the NZ camp...
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I think they alerted the Hotel promptly but it was them that delayed telling the police?
I suspect you would want to find the source wouldn't you? ARU would want their 'good name' cleared, Hotel would want themselves cleared of any part in it....?
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The media love a good headline eh. "So have you ruled out the possibility that the ABs bugged themselves??" "We haven't ruled anything out, we are still investigating".
Headline: ABs bugged their own room!!!!!
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If only the players put as much effort in their skills sessions as the media does making asinine suggestions.
