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    @Stockcar86 said in 2016-2017 World Sevens Series:

    What's with Scooters Billy Idol sneer - did they push one of his plugs too far down and he had a stroke?

    Bell's Palsy apparently.

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    @booboo said in 2016-2017 World Sevens Series:

    Disappointing finish v the RGs.

    Hard to work out how you top your group and play Fiji!

    Naah, it is easy. Second in group B (Fiji) played top of group C (NZ).

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    @JustAnotherFan said in 2016-2017 World Sevens Series:

    @booboo said in 2016-2017 World Sevens Series:

    Disappointing finish v the RGs.

    Hard to work out how you top your group and play Fiji!

    Naah, it is easy. Second in group B (Fiji) played top of group C (NZ).

    Thank you Captain Obvious

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    @booboo said in 2016-2017 World Sevens Series:

    @JustAnotherFan said in 2016-2017 World Sevens Series:

    @booboo said in 2016-2017 World Sevens Series:

    Disappointing finish v the RGs.

    Hard to work out how you top your group and play Fiji!

    Naah, it is easy. Second in group B (Fiji) played top of group C (NZ).

    Thank you Captain Obvious

    Pleasure.

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    @Stargazer said in 2016-2017 World Sevens Series:

    Any one want to predict that NZ will not be top of their group. It would be another NZ vs Fiji game at QF stage.

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    @JustAnotherFan said in 2016-2017 World Sevens Series:

    @Stargazer said in 2016-2017 World Sevens Series:

    Any one want to predict that NZ will not be top of their group. It would be another NZ vs Fiji game at QF stage.

    Would be disappointed if NZ did not yop that group. Although the Jocks looked quite good.

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    @booboo said in 2016-2017 World Sevens Series:

    @JustAnotherFan said in 2016-2017 World Sevens Series:

    @Stargazer said in 2016-2017 World Sevens Series:

    Any one want to predict that NZ will not be top of their group. It would be another NZ vs Fiji game at QF stage.

    Would be disappointed if NZ did not yop that group. Although the Jocks looked quite good.

    The jocks have improved (won final at Twickenham), 5th at Cape Town and 3rd today. Will be a good game NZ vs Jocks. Group C is death group with Australia playing at home.

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    Well that was shittier than shit.
    Understand that the squad is building...yadda yadda but where is the effortless ease and guile we used to play with previously? Seems to have abandoned us over the last few seasons.
    We appear to have the weight of the world on our shoulders and at times look like headless chickens with hot potatoes.
    What was our attack plan? If it was to set our alignment was way too deep, with the receiver having to stop and wait for the horrible moon ball pass, and have big forwards trundling it up only to lose possession or have a penalty awarded against them then it worked a treat.
    That said, Koroi looks like a keeper, and good to see DJ reinventing himself looking like a young buck.

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    Not a single Kiwi player in the top dozen for points, tackles or carries.

    Most disappointing for me is the defence. Just missed so many tackles, no physicality when they do make a tackle. We used to concede so few tries in a tournament, now we let in a few a game.

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    I wonder whether that is because they try to select young, strong & fast players with x-factor, while they also need strong, fast & skillful work horses with experience.

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    @Stargazer Yeah, maybe the mix is wrong but the young, strong and fast x-factor guys also need to defend well too. I did wonder if we were struggling with technique - trying to keep the tackles low due to everyone getting carded and haven't quite got it right yet. Same for all the teams though.

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    @Snowy I think we are lacking players with the right skill set. We used to get by with a team of mostly bigger reasonably quick all round athletes with a couple of playmakers.

    We have Forbes, Micklesen, Curry who are experienced classy players, but even they were making basic errors.

    I like watching 7s for what it is, but don't think the NZR should be forcing any players into 7s as many thought they should have last year.

    You see a lot of players go into these camps that don't get selected and then you see the performance of some and wonder what the ones that missed out did wrong.

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    @taniwharugby Skills are definitely an issue. Curry is a good player but his hands let him down several times and you just can't afford to gift possession in 7's. It is a very basic game, there is so much space on the field that if you keep the ball you will eventually score. Teams that are avoiding contact seem to be doing better because they don't run the risk of a legitimate turnover, or the ref making a mistake on side entry, holding on, etc. It is too much of a gamble to take the tackle so our old tactic of being bigger and stronger and dominating the breakdown, recycling, off loading, etc doesn't work.
    Now there is the added complication of tackle technique and getting sent off when defending. Not a simple fix for our sevens coaches.

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    @Snowy said in 2016-2017 World Sevens Series:

    Teams that are avoiding contact seem to be doing better because they don't run the risk of a legitimate turnover, or the ref making a mistake on side entry, holding on, etc. It is too much of a gamble to take the tackle so our old tactic of being bigger and stronger and dominating the breakdown, recycling, off loading, etc doesn't work.

    THat is the key I think, teams avoiding contact, look at what Fiji did to us in the Olympics, despite them having some big bruisers, they still dont look for the contact to launch from, need to re-look at our touch skills and go from there.

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    @taniwharugby said in 2016-2017 World Sevens Series:

    need to re-look at our touch skills and go from there.

    It is a shame that it is going down that road, but true I reckon. Rugby should be a contact sport but the space available in sevens means that it is avoidable.

    So are you going to call Scooter and let him know that we have it sussed or shall I?

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    @Snowy you live closer, so you go for it!

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    @Snowy said in 2016-2017 World Sevens Series:

    @taniwharugby said in 2016-2017 World Sevens Series:

    need to re-look at our touch skills and go from there.

    It is a shame that it is going down that road, but true I reckon. Rugby should be a contact sport but the space available in sevens means that it is avoidable.

    So are you going to call Scooter and let him know that we have it sussed or shall I?

    Good work boys. Now, any ideas on how to make the tournament not completely suck arse or should they just give up?

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    @MN5 Serve beer?

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    @Snowy said in 2016-2017 World Sevens Series:

    @MN5 Serve beer that actually has alcohol?

    Fixed

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    @taniwharugby said in 2016-2017 World Sevens Series:

    @Snowy said in 2016-2017 World Sevens Series:

    Teams that are avoiding contact seem to be doing better because they don't run the risk of a legitimate turnover, or the ref making a mistake on side entry, holding on, etc. It is too much of a gamble to take the tackle so our old tactic of being bigger and stronger and dominating the breakdown, recycling, off loading, etc doesn't work.

    THat is the key I think, teams avoiding contact, look at what Fiji did to us in the Olympics, despite them having some big bruisers, they still dont look for the contact to launch from, need to re-look at our touch skills and go from there.

    So, if rugby sevens is really turning into a limited-contact sport, then you don't really need the strong, big players anymore? Just fast, skillful and good decision makers?

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