Those sports stars you just can't warm to
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<p>I think Veitch hosted a show once which he walked out on after having bad hair. I'm not sure, though, maybe I need to check one of the 45,000 times it's been posted to me on social media to check.</p>
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<p>That was Marc Ellis at his best ( I had a beer with him at Matterhorn years ago, nice fella although as a 7th former he did chuck my mate, 3rd form at the time, in a rubbish bin which we laughed about years later, Ellis paid for the beer as a way of saying sorry which I told my mate about.... ). Class comedy.</p>
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<p>As far as I know Ridge hasn't broken any woman's back so is further up the cocksucker chain than Veich who as a sports "personality" probably doesn't qualify for this list. I think I remember Ridge having a real go at TV when all the revelations came out about that, saying he would never work with him again so kudos to Ridge for that at least.</p> -
<p>I went to a Sports Café Annual Awards one year. All the stars were there and met and had a beer with many. Ellis was a lad but was OK until he got totally wasted</p>
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<p>I shared a table with a group of women who went to Jamaica to support the Silver Ferns at the NWC basically for a booze trip but they ended up playing Jamaica B - they won some award - They were scathing about McCaw. They lived in the Hakataremea so had approached him for anything they could raffle for fund raising. He sounded like a total knob - perfectly consistent with not standing drinks at his 21st. He sounded in McAwe of his own magnificence as they described him.</p>
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<p>Took me a few years to warm to him after that, but he seemed to grow out of it.</p> -
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<p>I went to a Sports Café Annual Awards one year. All the stars were there and met and had a beer with many. Ellis was a lad but was OK until he got totally wasted</p>
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<p>I shared a table with a group of women who went to Jamaica to support the Silver Ferns at the NWC basically for a booze trip but they ended up playing Jamaica B - they won some award - They were scathing about McCaw. They lived in the Hakataremea so had approached him for anything they could raffle for fund raising. He sounded like a total knob - perfectly consistent with not standing drinks at his 21st. He sounded in McAwe of his own magnificence as they described him.</p>
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<p>Took me a few years to warm to him after that, but he seemed to grow out of it.</p>
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<p>To be fair, if a group of people come to you ask for something to raffle off to fund-raise for a piss trip, I think he's in the right to tell them f off!</p> -
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<p>To be fair, if a group of people come to you ask for something to raffle off to fund-raise for a piss trip, I think he's in the right to tell them f off!</p>
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<p>Easy for them to be offended but in his defence if he's getting multiple requests for that type of shit it must get on his nerves.</p>
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After reading Jonahs and Wilsons book and the demands they got from the public for time and money and the intrusions into their private life I'd probably tell them to bugger off too. Add to that if he does give them some coin every team on a piss trip is going to come to him with their hands out saying that he'd already donated to the netball team and why not us ?<br><br>
Speaking of which any charity that rings me up and says " you donated last year and we were hoping you would be as generous again this year " knowing full I didn't actually give them a cent gets told to fuck off. -
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<p>Easy for them to be offended but in his defence if he's getting multiple requests for that type of shit it must get on his nerves.</p>
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<p>Best bet is for them to take to Twitter to voice their outrage.</p>
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<p>This was pre-twitter and they didn't mind so much being told no - more the way he did it. I wouldn't have mentioned it other than the story about his 21st.</p> -
<p>Here's my Aussie perspective, so take this with however many grains of salt you want, but...</p>
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<p>I've never warmed to McCaw. He doesn't strike me as the kind of bloke who I'd like to have a beer with. Very straight laced, very driven. I can understand the issues with him that some on here have, though I don't 'hate' him by any stretch.</p>
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<p>FYI it's not really to do with his Kiwi-ness, as I'd gladly have a beer and a chat with Nonu, Smith x 3, Dagg, Read. But not the Franks brothers, can't stand muscle-bound gym-bunnies.</p> -
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<p>I've never warmed to McCaw. He doesn't strike me as the kind of bloke who I'd like to have a beer with. Very straight laced, very driven. I can understand the issues with him that some on here have, though I don't 'hate' him by any stretch.</p>
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<p>Interesting. I wonder how much of it's got to do with not liking your own kind.</p>
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<p>I would argue that perhaps the Aussie sportsman most respected by NZ folk over the last 20 years would be Steve Waugh. And I can't help but think that those same reasons you say you've never warmed to McCaw, are exactly the same reasons why most of us warmed to Waugh.</p> -
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<p>Interesting. I wonder how much of it's got to do with not liking your own kind.</p>
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<p>I would argue that perhaps the Aussie sportsman most respected by NZ folk over the last 20 years would be Steve Waugh. And I can't help but think that those same reasons you say you've never warmed to McCaw, are exactly the same reasons why most of us warmed to Waugh.</p>
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<p>I reckon an avo beer with the Waughs would be fucken fascinating entertainment. As I said before try as I might not to admit it but there's plenty of Aussies I'd add to the "have a beer" list, Mortlock, Sailor, Larkham, Latham, Hayden, Justin Langer, Border and many others.</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MN5" data-cid="594458" data-time="1467778842"><p>That was Marc Ellis at his best ( I had a beer with him at Matterhorn years ago, nice fella although as a 7th former he did chuck my mate, 3rd form at the time, in a rubbish bin which we laughed about years later, Ellis paid for the beer as a way of saying sorry which I told my mate about.... ). Class comedy.<br><br>
As far as I know Ridge hasn't broken any woman's back so is further up the cocksucker chain than Veich who as a sports "personality" probably doesn't qualify for this list. I think I remember Ridge having a real go at TV when all the revelations came out about that, saying he would never work with him again so kudos to Ridge for that at least.</p></blockquote>
I remember hearing rumours that Ellis used to put 3rd formers into rubbish bins and push them down the terraces. Was glad I didn't go to school with him! His parents were my nextdoor neighbours, his old man was a grumpy old bugger. -
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<p>I remember hearing rumours that Ellis used to put 3rd formers into rubbish bins and push them down the terraces. Was glad I didn't go to school with him! His parents were my nextdoor neighbours, his old man was a grumpy old bugger.</p>
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<p>They weren't rumours. I'm sure you remember those bins, if you go in arse first you basically get stuck and someone has to help you out.</p>
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<p>Filo Tiatia amongst others used to join the "fun" too. I was too small and runty to bother with but some of my smart arse bigger mates got dealt to.</p>
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<p>They did away with heaps of that "third form hunt" shit before you started as far as I know, looking back it's real macho bullshit, one of my mates to this day would walk up and punch Ellis in the face if he ever saw him.</p> -
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<p>I remember hearing rumours that Ellis used to put 3rd formers into rubbish bins and push them down the terraces. Was glad I didn't go to school with him! His parents were my nextdoor neighbours, his old man was a grumpy old bugger.</p>
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<p>I had a mate who flatted with him in Dunedin. Said he was a right prick to flat with, would come home after being out on the lash, eat all the food and trash the place. But he always seemed to get away with it as he had the whole lovable rogue schtick down pat</p> -
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<p>I had a mate who flatted with him in Dunedin. Said he was a right prick to flat with, would come home after being out on the lash, eat all the food and trash the place. But he always seemed to get away with it as he had the whole lovable rogue schtick down pat</p>
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<p>Doesn't surprise me, I used to work with the guy who coached him in the first 15. He tried to ruin every team photo putting on dick nose or something similarly stupid , whenever I see someone described as a prankster I read that word as "attention seeking arseclown" or abbreviate it to "Ellis".</p> -
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<p>I see there is a movie about his magnificence coming out.</p>
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<p>Sneak Peak on Stuff if you care enough.</p>
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<p>Dunno why it is billed as a movie (and as a cinema release??) is more an extended documentary by the looks...be interesting to see if it gives any more insight into him than we got from his book.</p>
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<p>judging by half the comments in here, they missed the boat on the release date by about a year ;)</p> -
When I have seen aussies bagging McCaw online its almost a mirror image of when I see kiwis bagging Cameron smith , very similar scenario
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<p>I reckon an avo beer with the Waughs would be fucken fascinating entertainment. As I said before try as I might not to admit it but there's plenty of Aussies I'd add to the "have a beer" list, Mortlock, Sailor, Larkham, Latham, Hayden, Justin Langer, Border and many others.</p>
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<p>I think you might change your mind about Mortlock after your first beer.</p>
